in july, right before the democratic convention, the first batch of e-mails was released. they released them right before the democratic convention. matt miller and malcolm nans, your expertise very valuable. i appreciate it. up next the lawyer in the center of the meeting, this is all thanks to some very original reporting in the atlantic and the author joins me next. there is nothing there. so she is saying she had no information to provide. do you remember that she s suggesting that you were pressing her a little bit for information? i image i did. i was pressing because the pretext of the meeting was i have information about your opponent. it was dnc donors may have done something in russia and didn t pay taxes. i was like what does this have to do with anything? it s a good thing we brought the tablets huh?
marking the nation s holiday at the tomb of the unknown soldier before delivering remarks honoring fallen service members. we just heard the 21-gun salute meaning president trump is on the grounds there at arlington. we ll also hear remarks from defense secretary james mattis and chairman of the joint chiefs joseph dunford. we ll bring you all the comments live. you re seeing the vice president there. joining me now is colonel jack jacobs and medal of honor recipient and military analyst malcolm nans, retired chief and msnbc terror analyst, kevin barrett, and military analyst and executive editor of defense one in allen lickman, distinguished history professor and presidential historian. gentlemen, good to have you with us. you see there, the secretary of defense, james mattis, as well. malcolm nance and colonel jack jacob, i m going to start with you, retired military, talk about the importance of today
it s a tense time. the trump camp congratulated poout for his victory. they released that publicly. they have not done that with other leaders. but here again it appears to be donald trump sort of courting the respect of vladimir putin at a time when many in the u.s. think that is a dangerous position to take. all right. kelly o donnell live for us from florida. enjoy your holiday. reporter: thank you. let s bring in our panel. we have a former fbi operative, malcolm nans, and an associate dean. nina, let me begin with you. big news. trump says, let it be an arms race. how worried should we be about that? well, we can be very worried about it, because trump says a lot of things. at the same time, as his team after that tweet tried to
malcolm nans, and nina, professor of international affairs and associate dean at the news school. good morning. malcolm, we ve learned that at least one of these three new people taken into custody was communicating with amri through the telegram act. that s the same app the paris attackers used. they re very hard to break, especially ones like telegram. they often have point to point encryption. that means unless you have that phone and you take that phone and you can break it out, that communication cannot be intercepted, and that s very difficult. some of the other apps disappear at the end of the communication. so you have no record of what s left there. isis prefers and isis supporters prefer the telegram act because of the encryption and the
pivot at some point from donald trump the campaigner who campaigned on some pretty inflammatory rhetoric to donald trump the leader. i think from what i m hearing from colleagues ived in the transition, there is some reception from the trump team to, for example, take on russia as not necessarily being an ally. i think that you re going to see after january 20th, potentially a shift here. the tweeting thing doesn t help. we don t need an unfiltered trump speaking directly to us. i just think these things don t help anyone, and you would urge him to rethink that. secondly, there s a larger point here. malcolm and i have talked about this. context is key. take trump and the united states out of this. when you look at countries like china and russia, they ve had 100 year plans. four eight years of trump is a speed bump in the road to where they want to be. china has been clear. they want taiwan,nd the south