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tried. but i think what we are seeing now is a growing consensus that the committee is treating this almost like a prosecutor what. what are the most important charges? what are the best charges? what are the charges that are going to stick? and eventuality, they are looking at some other players. i don t think they are going to go in and make referrals for every phony elector out there, but i wouldn t be surprised if they do make referrals for people like mark meadows and john eastman. who were clearly top players in all of this. so i think the committee not only has to decide what charges apply to donald trump, but what people to include in that. and what do they do with people like the members of congress who they don t have maybe an airtight case, but they think that there is something there . to the creighton other category for those people and say listen, we haven t been able to get to the battle of this, but the justice department is sure to look at these people. that s not a
think, tracks. i think you are gonna see indictments next year. we won t know exactly what the pacing was or the philosophy was, probably for a very long time. we will may not know it for until well after the cases are tried. but i think what we are seeing now is a growing consensus that the committee is treating this almost like a prosecutor what. what are the most important charges? what are the best charges? what are the charges that are going to stick? and eventuality, they are looking at some other players. i don t think they are going to go in and make referrals for every phony elector out there, but i wouldn t be surprised if they do make referrals for people like mark meadows and john eastman. who were clearly top players in all of this. so i think the committee not only has to decide what charges apply to donald trump, but what people to include in that. and what do they do with people like the members of congress who they don t have maybe an airtight case, but they think th
commit a crime. if we do make referrals, we want to be very careful about how we do them. but i think we are all certainly in agreement that there is evidence of criminality here, and we want to make sure that the justice department is aware of that. harry lippman is a former u.s. attorney, and former japanese attorney general of the department of justice. he s also talking feds bought cast. first, harry, the subpoena to raffensperger is striking to me for two reasons. one, wow, okay, like, clearly, if they are subpoenaing raffensperger, we have a broad idea what they re investigating, the attempt to overturn the election in the state of georgia, similar in the fulton county district attorney. but also, how did it take two years for that to happen? what does it mean about the jack smith era? what do you think of that second question? well, look, on the second, it means that whatever has happened in the last two years, including voluntary discussions, he is on the move. this is th
since jack smith was appointed special counsel, but his investigations are making a lot of news, and a flurry of activity, some of which is being reported publicly. today, we got confirmation that the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, received a subpoena from the special counsel. a source telling nbc news the subpoena was only requests for documents. it was delivered just days after smith s subpoena local efficient in arizona, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, and other states where trump tried to flip the result of the 2020 was presidential election. and it comes as the january six committee to issue criminal referrals in its own investigation. the committee met this weekend to discuss, adam schiff explain that even if some people are not preferred, it doesn t mean they as evidence they didn t commit a crime. if we do make referrals, we want to be very careful about how we do them. but i think we are all certainly in agreement that there is evidence of criminality her
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