for the d.c. circuit. i think they're not going to sit on it. >> the big question is, and i think that we all -- everyone is expecting him to lose. >> yes. >> maybe three or, at least two on, but there's some judges on the panel. the big course -- there's a big washington post tiktok on this, is timing, what do they do on timing? what is your anticipation of what they will do or what do you think they should do timing wise? >> so i think this is all about timing. i think everyone discusses the merits of this. there are no merits to this. it's a preposterous notion. i've never been as convinced that the supreme court may take a pass on this, as when i heard the oral argument, because it was so frivolous that as much as you think the supreme court might want to weigh in on this to make it absolutely clear, if you listen to the argument, it was childish. everything, though, for donald trump, is he could be like, yeah, you know what, i'm losing the battle, and winning the war,