you know, those thoughts. larry: but they also teach, wanda, love the sinner, hate the sin. they don t teach that enough. you know. and it s they don t teach the love part. i ll put it that way. they don t teach the love part enough. and it s all driven on by fear. you know, it s i believe a lot of people like if it were my own family. you know, i believe that the big problem that my family had with me is that, you know, it s the superstition and it s the fear that if i accept you then i m accountable and then i m going to go to hell. which is it s crazy. larry: is it did you make a conscious decision, tim, to be gay? oh, certainly not, larry. as a matter of fact, growing up, i didn t really know who i was when it came to my sexuality. but i knew who i wasn t. and there just weren t a lot of positive role models for me