people and countries who are celebrating in january is this a rejection o russia it s partially. the russian orthodox church in russia which has its affiliates her in ukraine that a russian orthodox church has been really close to vladimir putin they have provided a kind of spiritual cover and a lot of justifications for russia invasion of ukraine. it s no wonder that a lot of ukrainians who conside themselves patriots want t distance themselves from mosco and from the russian patriarch matt, i think after withi months of this war you were there the night i broke out. had been there a lot this reporting about impotence as he sort of negotiate. it s ukrainians that i want to this is tricky because ukraine s will say what exactl are we negotiating for he took crimea in 2014 then you took these othe places in ukraine.
i think sometimes you can have both. but we have to be reasonable we have to be for example if you are speakin about what goes on in ukrain now. i don t think the endgame ca include justice and peace. i don t see putin withdrawin all his forces from crimea basically having to admi failure complete failure for his diplomacy or what he did in the case of ukraine, i thin hopefully there will be peace. justice i don t think we wil achieve in ukraine there are other examples where you can see justice and peac happen together. not more often i have to say when i started this process of doing th movie. i was more in ideas. i would take the title o samantha power second book, th education of an idealist it was educated during the process of doing this movie to understand that the world is full of bad people
we like our land back an that s when the war will b over tell me what you understand to be the case here with russia with putin saying i m ready to negotiate. i gotta tell you. negotiation is the longest fou letter word in ukraine right now. nobody here wants to hear that we talk to governmen officials. they rejected entirely the source of negotiations a far as ukrainians ar concerned. that sort of back in the 1990s when the ukrainians abandone their nuclear weapons to placate moscow those reporting negotiations that s when negotiation became associated here with capitulation and ever since, the invasion back in 2014 when the russians took ove crimea and russian separatists russian-backed separatist to cover the donbas region. nobody s been talking abou negotiations in any earnes way. the negotiations back then led to the minsk agreements. two successive agreements that were not adhere to ukrainians say moscow signed
united states. he s the one that defines what comes in to the national interest of what comes out o that for example, over wanda. in the mid 19 90 94 was not a national interest for america in there and 100 days, 900,000 people were killed by a machete. nobody can claim that they didn t know because th information of what was goin on in rwanda was available t the decision-maker during that time in many cases available t the public i know that russia - ukraine russian out fixe documentary. at this point, you had somebody, we have to find the trailer wh said you can choose justice or you can choose peace you can have both. justice in ukraine for instanc will be getting their land bac including crimea peace would mean the air rai sirens going off on christma morning and more people no being killed is a true? do believe that he can hav justice or piece but not both?
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