people and countries who are celebrating in january >> is this a rejection o russia >> it's partially. the russian orthodox church in russia which has its affiliates her in ukraine that a russian orthodox church has been really close to vladimir putin they have provided a kind of spiritual cover and a lot of justifications for russia' invasion of ukraine. it's no wonder that a lot of ukrainians who conside themselves patriots want t distance themselves from mosco and from the russian patriarch >> matt, i think after withi months of this war you were there the night i broke out. had been there a lot this reporting about impotence as he sort of negotiate. it's ukrainians that i want to this is tricky because ukraine's will say what exactl are we negotiating for he took crimea in 2014 then you took these othe places in ukraine.