knew he lost the 2020 election and that their scheme to overturn the results was illegal. and yet, they attempted it anyway. president trump rejected the advice of his campaign experts on election night. and instead, followed the chorus recommended by apparently inebriated rudy giuliani. to just claim he won. and insist that the vote counting stop. to falsely claim everything was fraudulent. and there are an lies the true nature of these hearings. to truly hold trump and his fellow coup plotters accountable. the committee has already uncovered evidence that trump may have committed serious federal crimes. but it s up to the justice department to bring criminal charges. as neil cocktail argues in the opinion page of the new york times today, attorney general merrick garland could bring a charge of conspiracy to defraud the united states even if trump truly believed in what he was saying. and it wasn t just democracy at stake, but lives as well. vice president mike pence fa
representative jordan and mccarthy, they had been in the trump camp since the insurrection of january 6th. don t forget that minority leader kevin mccarthy who was pretty angry on january 6th and so that he called trump out, on a pretty terse on call, went down to mar-a-lago just a few weeks later and kissed the trump ring. so if you will out there in america keep expecting the republicans who are in congress right now to the right thing, you re going to be waiting for a really long time. they have made their bed, they re going to lie and it, they know that the cards in the winds of politics look really good for them going into the midterms in the fall. so they re not going to rock that boat. they know this is wrong. they know it was wrong back then, jonathan. evidently speck them to call it out because it behooves them to keep going down the road are going down. i m not expecting it, anything. matt, talk about how dangerous it is for american democracy that a far-right election
american democracy. joining me now is msnbc political contributor and analyst, matthew dowd. he is also author of revelations on the river, healing a nation, healing ourselves. also joining, us soviet. nelson former house republican committee counsel, and the author of the the one you need. 21 life lessons i weren t learned while taking care of everyone but me. and, my washington post colleague an msnbc political analyst pull jennifer reuben, she is the author of resistance, how women save democracy from donald trump. thank you all very much for being here this morning, for coming back to the sunday show. sophia, you are in the middle so i m starting with you. here is what i find. interesting. about what judge lueck said. it was the truth! and his words have been met with incredible silence from the usual loudmouths mccarthy and jordan. why the silence? jonathan, look, you know that