permanent, let democrats run on if you put us back in power we ll raise your taxes. right now, all they re running on you know, that s the skas of out of state billionaires are making you pay for their tax cuts. gabby, i don t always get in some ways they re right, if you get into the private equity loophole thing. but the reality is, yes, corporations are getting tax cuts, but middle americans are getting dax cuts, too. what s not let s not forget who employs plidle americans? corporations. if they have eve got more money they hire more people. i think tom skier, i rarely give him praise for what s happening in america. but he had some interesting comments last week during a democratic national convention meeting in california where he said that house speaker house minority leader nancy pelosi has erred in saying the tax bill gave crumbs to the american
the poll that you neglected to mention is the date it was taken. was taken the day after and the day after that of the major rulings of the court. now, whenever the court rules on something really large like the voting rights act or gay marriage. you know it s going to alienate and anger a large part of the popu think that is a temporary phenomenon you expect that at the end of june every year. i think generally speaking if you ask the same people six months, nine months hence, i think people will show there will be a lot different result. bill: maybe. they have a sense of respect for it but on the morning after a ruling when you are on the losing side, you are really steamed. bill: this time four years ago a 20 point drop. they were making rulings four years ago. the loophole thing is what gets me. as i said i have respect for the supreme court. kelly was a little sceptic call of my statement that throughout history i think they have done the right
to mention is the date it was taken. was taken the day after and the day after that of the major rulings of the court. now, whenever the court rules on something really large like the voting rights act or gay marriage. you know it s going to alienate and anger a large part of the population i think that is a temporary phenomenon you expect that at the end of june every year. i think generally speaking if you ask the same people six months, nine months hence, i think people will show there will be a lot different result. bill: maybe. they have a sense of respect for it but on the morning after a ruling when you are on the losing side, you are really steamed. bill: this time four years ago a 20 point drop. they were making rulings four years ago. the loophole thing is what gets me. as i said i have respect for the supreme court. kelly was a little sceptic call of my statement that throughout history i think they have done the right
but look, grover norquist, the anti-tax crusader, made didn t make them, but 258 republicans signed a no tax hike pledge that includes you can t do the loophole thing, you can t raise marginal rates. he s a powerful guy. he is. but given the election is he dead in the water now? i wouldn t say he s dead in the water but if the republican party goes to him, they are resigned to permanently lose elections. bottom line the norquist pledge is not relevant given the debt and deficit that we have, the need to raise rates potentially as well as cutting loopholes and balancing the budget. greg, can i say one thing about norquist? sure. i think it s dying, the pledge. i think more members don t want to honor it. but while it still exists, it can help the gop in negotiating with obama. they can say to them, listen, for me to break this pledge is going to be really rough for me.
plan. what they don t understand is everybody else is waiting for the plan so he that we can plan. how am i going to put together what i need to be doing for next quarter and next year if they can t decide what they re going to do. yes, i have to do obamacare? i don t have to do obamacare? i m in compliance, i m not in compliance? what are we doing? we re in quick sand right now. neil: now what happens, each side goes back to their extreme talking points and that s fine, but it doesn t move the ball. what i m thinking is that republicans have to get over the notion that if you close loopholes, and special allowances and brakes so that some pay no taxes at all, that, you know, shall we prevent them from dig. neil: that s not a tax hike. it might be technically, but, on the other side, democrats have to get over reigning in entitlements and they re not throwing granny off a cliff. if you can t get past that. you re never going to get past that. republicans have gotten past the loop