countries that were part of the freeze but they were identified as troublesome under the obama administration. i want to play what we got from former c.i.a. director robert gates talking about this and talking about the west. sadly, manchester may be a harbinger of more such activities in the west as people leave scurry away from those sites and that doesn t mean they are defeated individually or that they ve lost their commitment to attacking the crusaders or whatever they want to call them. it just means they will change their tactics. shannon: we ve heard this talk of crusaders, those viewed as opponents of the radical islamic elements to go after them, soft targets, concerts, malls, how do we thread the needle that you and katie have been starring upon and making
under way from the islamic state and it certainly has the signature, the islamic state. and jakarta is an obvious place. we re going to have to wait to see what the police there see. but it s starting to look like an islamic state attack. let s look at the mechanics of the attack, at least three or four people involved in the attack, three of them believe to be dead. possible suicide bombers. now there are reports that gunmen are holed up in a building not far from where the attacks took place. so this seems obviously a lot more than a lone wolf-style attack. this is something which needed to be planned attacked, carried out .3. a lone wolf doesn t quite make a statement. but multiple attacks in places like jakarta will shake that country. as jeremy was saying. a lot of these fighters are getting combat experience in
program a thousandfold more invasive collecting all of the data of all the french. yet they still weren t able to see this coming. so my question is, how much liberty do we want to give up for a false sense of security? the government has investigated our program of collecting through a generalized fashion everyone s phone records in the country, and they ve found that no terrorist case has been thwarted through this. what would you do if you were president tonight? president is going to address the nation. what would you say to the nation to make them feel safer? this idea of a lone wolf doesn t make me feel any safer? i think what we ve had in the past is the government says, we need to collect the whole haystack, every american s privacy. what i d like to do is make the haystack smaller i. think we have to be careful who comes here from the middle east. i ve introduced legislation to say right now let s stop it. how is that not personal profiling? people who want to come to
doing bulk collection. all bulk collection. also in frances, they have a program a thousandfold more invasive collecting all of the data of all the french. yet they still weren t able to see this coming. so my question is, how much liberty do we want to give up for a false sense of security? the government has investigated our program of collecting through a generalized fashion everyone s phone records in the country, and they ve found that no terrorist case has been thwarted through this. what would you do if you were president tonight? president is going to address the nation. what would you say to the nation to make them feel safer? this idea of a lone wolf doesn t make me feel any safer? i think what we ve had in the past is the government says, we need to collect the whole haystack, every american s privacy. what i d like to do is make the haystack smaller i. think we have to be careful who comes here from the middle east. i ve introduced legislation to say right now let s sto
actual members of isis who, you know, worked with teams over there and some could have come from outside the country. this remains to be seen. we don t have all the information yet. i d imagine because there were multiple individuals involved, they might each have a separate story. it doesn t have to be that they re all from within france or outside. it s probably a mix of different situations and a cell that came together with a high level of coordination given that this all happened simultaneously. that makes sense. we ll known soon enough. tara maller, former military analyst at the cia. they re so worried about lone wolf attacks, because a lone wolf doesn t have to talk to anybody. a lone wolf can go out and do whatever he wants. but if you re going to have something coordinated, just say hypothetically there were going to be three groups attacking in three different places and moving from one place to another with all kinds of coordination, security apparatuses in place to hear