well, i hope not. gep, i don t know how he knows these people. well, i don t know. i haven t spoken to rudy. i spoke to him yesterday briefly. he s a very good attorney and he has been my attorney, yeah, sure. did you capture that? the president appeared to distance himself a little bit from rudy giuliani. the new york times reported federal investigators are trying to figure out whether giuliani violated lobbying las. the times cites two people involved with the investigation and that inquiry is reportedly being conducted by the same u.s. attorney s office that giuliani led before becoming mayor of new york city, and as one of my next guests puts it, the man i worked for in 1993 is not the man who now lies for donald trump. what happened to rg jg tudy giu? a question a lot of people are wondering. and ken friedman press secretary foregiuliani during the 1993