actually states very explicitly that no mathematical model will ever offer a complete explanation of what s going on, because gordon s theorem invokes almost a break from mathematical logic. leonard, would you say that? actually i would agree with almost everything you just said. okay. on the i would. with maybe some fine tuning of nature. but the one thing that i would have to think about is what you say about gordon s theorem. that applies to asimatic system. larry: meaning? meaning you state a few mathematical principles and derive everything using mathematics from those principles. that s not what science is. science is based on ideas that come from observation. larry: do you believe something happens to us when we die? i don t think what i you know, i don t think that what i
logical errors that might be made especially in logical determinism. larry: leonard, are you going to do a book with deepak? we re talking about that. yeah. larry: and the theme would be what? well, it would probably be something related to what we re talking about today. his point of view, i have my point of view. we thought discussion of that could be of interest to people. larry: let s assume, it s a fair assumption, the three of you are being interviewed by an idiot. can we assume there are three idiots sitting around the table trying to understand the universe? larry: i don t know. effective means of asking questions. i don t know. the first simple question, let s start with you, leonard. who created the nothing? how can something come out of nothing? where did the nothing come from? does there have to be a something a beginning?
larry: deepak, if people talk to a heavenly father and believe from that talk they get solace, so what? yes, nobody objects to that. on the other hand, as father spitzer said, human beings have a need for meaning. now, you know, leonard and stephen hawking in the book categorically state that this is a deterministic universe, that therefore, free will is an illusion. by saying that, they also imply that incite, inspiration, creativity, enthusiasm, self-reflection, all of these are not there. you know, and yet the deepak, i don t think we imply that they re not there. we we don t say that at all. you do say i feel inspiration, it doesn t have to be there as a result of god. no. there as a result of creativity, if you re totally determined then there s no place for
no physical explanation yet. when i talk to leonard he says you know, leonard says one day we ll have an explanation. i say that s a promissory note. in the current economic situation i don t cake promissory notes. larry: faith doesn t require proof? sometimes when people set up some dichotomy, science versus physics i don t quite get it because the grand design is about what the modern theories of science say about the universe and if you want to believe something on faith you can. we don t we don t claim to prove in the book there is no god or tell you not to believe in god. we just talk about the answers of modern science to those two questions, how did the universe get here and why are the laws what they are? larry: how about those who say, an astronaut would say, look, is nothing the only thing is that blue planet. and how can you say nothing created that? that that came out of nothing?