the end of the world if we cannot such steps. the whole world is late with ukraine. started late. making decisions. i appeal to biden, say if you cannot shut the sky now, then now give us the timeline. tell us how many people have to die, how many limbs have to fly away from people s bodies. hear us. i think i have to talk with putin. the world has to talk with putin because there are no ways to stop this war. martha: david petraeus is standing by for zelensky s answers for calls to shut down the skies over ukraine as casualties mount. and we have a woman that was holed up in ukraine. she will be with us in just a
the oligarchs. today i m announcing we re adding dozens of names to the list including one of russia s wealthiest billionaires. i m banning travel to america by more than 50 russian oligarching and their families and close associates. we re going to support the ukrainian people with direct assistance. martha: i m wondering about that. is that the way to go? are some of them looking that direction? sandra: i m hearing they re not buying russian oil. the corporate side of the oil industry has taken that into their own hands. they haven t purchased anything
and just tell him it s going to get worse. we can see this. there s no question. there s an infantry together. so they resort to this kind of action. it is again, increasingly barbaric. let me get one last comment here, if i could, martha. again, i sat at the situation room table and i worked for people that sat at it. you know, when you hear that phrase we must do something , what the decision makers need to do is say, okay, got it. specifically what and then you really do have to examine, again, the pluses, the minuses, the lookly outcomes, the potential.
a few minutes ago, we heard air raid sirens throughout the city. you can see in images from towns west of the ukrainian capitol. devastating scenes unfolding as civilians are killed and injured. the russians continue to shell these villages and towns while they fire missiles in to the capitol city. just devastating for the civilian population here. martha? martha: one more quick question. when they told you that you were going somewhere, did you know? did they say you ll have an opportunity to ask questions or did they say come with us, we have information for you? based on who we received the invitation from, we had an idea that the president may be there. we didn t know until we got in to the room that it would indeed be ukrainian president zelensky. it gave us some unique behind-the-scenes understanding about how this war is taking place and his conversation with international leaders. he talked about making anywhere
moment arrives. so you can bet that you know that every psychological profiler out at cia headquarters and others is trying to see how far he would go using all of our sources and methods to try to provide insights into that. but this is the most challenging endeavor of all in the intelligence business. this is trying to get inside the mind of someone else. it s someone who has been isolated because of two years of covid lockdown, who sits on one side of the room from all of his ministers that are mignons and refuse to give him bad news or counter him in any way. so it gets very, very tough. i think, martha, it s very easy to sit where you and i do and ask why something we need to do something. it s very different frankly to sit at the situation room table, particularly at the head of it