gave and the question about more legal questions than answers in the wake of those interviews. i want to bring in solomon wisenburg who is a former independent deputy counsel in the clinton era, whitewater and lewinsky investigation. he joins me now from raleigh, north carolina. thanks so much for coming in. just broadly, what do you make of giuliani s legal status here? he metaphorically murdered the president and committed suicide with respect to his own reputation. that s pretty stark. how so? oh, it was an incredibly embarrassing interview. look, when you re representing anybody, much less the president of the united states, you have to know that when you go on television and you make statemen
counsel robert mueller. most interestingly, the tweet that was posted by the president this morning that suggested he may want to take some dramatic action to shut down the mueller investigation or to somehow opt not to sit down for that interview, the president s tweet here, a rigged system, they don t want to turn over documents to congress. what are they afraid of? why so much redacting? the president referring to the house demands that they want to see some memos of what the special counsel is looking into. but the very end of that tweet says at some pointly have no choice but to use the powers granted to the presidency and get involved. that suggests that the president is thinking heavily about either shutting down the mueller investigation or perhaps getting rid of rod rosenstein or perhaps deciding not to sit down with the special counsel. it does sound as if, if you go by that tweet, the president is
does he want to fight, go to court, resist that? or might he just ignore this? what do you think of the decision as now has been widely reported by robert mueller to threaten the president with a subpoena if he doesn t voluntarily sit down for an interview? i ve been saying for a long time, that was completely predictable. if the president thinks he s above the law and doesn t have to provide the evidence that the special counsel wants, he s wrong. and i believe that i m quite certain that if he litigates it, he will lose in court and he will have to provide evidence in some form or fashion. remind us what happened with bill clinton, because we all remember when he was questioned by the grand jury during the whole monica lewinsky uproar. in the case of ken starr s proceeding he was the independent counsel. that s correct, he was the independent counsel investigating white water which led to the lewinsky
complicit in its existence will go down in flames at the poles in november of 2018. let me get to some new reporting that we are just getting in from jim acosta. he s saying that ty cobb, the president s lawyer in the white house, was uncomfortable with the mueller tweets, referring to the president s tweets about mueller and the investigation, witch hunt, hoax, all those kinds of words that the president used. and that ty cobb didn t want to be part of all the mud slinging in the campaign that s going on. what is your reaction to that? nobody can stay around donald trump long who has a conscience and who has character and believes in ethics. i think that s probably why dowd left, why ty cobb left, and why mr. flood s time is limited. i would expect mr. flood should consult with secretary pruitt and find a short-term rental. i don t think he should close
puffing out his chest and this is some preheavyweight bout posturing that goes on between two fighters here, or the president is thinking about doing something dramatic and doing something to that mueller investigation that obviously the justice department is not going to like. what that has to do with ty cobb and his departure remains to be seen. we have not heard a statement from ty cobb up until this point explaining why he s stepping aside. but the white house trying to make it very clear in that statement that this has been under discussion for some time and he notified the chief of staff last week, wolf. another major shakeup in that legal staff. jim acosta, once you get more we ll get back to you. i want to bring in our cnn analysts right now. gloria, what do you think? another big shakeup. it is. it is not unexpected. ty cobb was appointed to get all the documents together, to make