does he want to fight, go to court, resist that? or might he just ignore this? >> what do you think of the decision as now has been widely reported by robert mueller to threaten the president with a subpoena if he doesn't voluntarily sit down for an interview? >> i've been saying for a long time, that was completely predictable. if the president thinks he's above the law and doesn't have to provide the evidence that the special counsel wants, he's wrong. and i believe that -- i'm quite certain that if he litigates it, he will lose in court and he will have to provide evidence in some form or fashion. >> remind us what happened with bill clinton, because we all remember when he was questioned by the grand jury during the whole monica lewinsky uproar. >> in the case of ken starr's proceeding -- >> he was the independent counsel. >> that's correct, he was the independent counsel investigating white water which led to the lewinsky