giant hurdle. a republican-led congress really, both in the senate and in the house side, who seem unmoved by any of this evidence. joining me now is democratic congressman denny heck. a member of the house intel committee. congressman, lets s start with that riddle because i feel this isn t you re not building a circumstantial case. you guys have, in some cases, first-person witnesses. this is not the mueller report. this is not one-offs here, an australian diplomat there. and yet, it s not it s not moving the other side here. at what point does that become a problem? well, it s not moving to the other side, chuck, today. but let s see what the future brings. let s see what the continued disclosure of these depositions, which is incredibly powerful testimony, brings. let s see what the open public hearings brings. you know, we re going to be treated to, i think, some