shannon: let s go a little deeper. assistant secretary of legislation, basset and texas attorney general ken paxton, welcome back to both of you. great to be back. good evening, shannon. shannon: you see peter pushing for answers, we ve seen it on capitol hill about getting numbers about exactly what s happening. former acting ice director says this about getting to those answers. absolutely know the numbers and he s not going to quote the numbers i was the ice director. we spent millions of dollars on these databases. all you have to do is make a phone call and ask how many people have we removed since january and i would know answer in 15 minutes because the databases would throw the information out. shannon: general, i would ask you, you re on the front lines in texas, how important is this information, how are the feds cooperating with new controlling the issues there at the border?
let s go a little deeper into this, joyce , this transactional immunity. the new york times reporting there a under state law, witness such as mr. mcconney who appear before the grand jury are granted immunity on the subject of their testimony. they cannot exercise their fifth amendment right to refuse to answer questions on the grounds that they may incriminate themselves. tell me what that means and why that is significant to this testimony. this is different from federal grand jury practice and it s really important in this situation because it means that mcconney testified in the grand jury without the ability to assert a fifth amendment right to avoid self-incrimination. he already had immunity. he had no further risk. the problem that he faced in that setting, though, was if he failed to answer truthfully, he could be prosecuted down the road for perjury. and of course we know that cy
runs at the time. directly under donald is his finance guy, allen weisselberg, who knows where all the bodies are buried and all the money is. and right beneath him is jeffrey mcconney. he has come before the grand jury, which under a new law new york law means he has immunity for anything he s testified about. transactional immunity. indicates that they are trying very hard to flip allen weisselberg, because that is where he would be most helpful to them, in all likelihood. what did allen weisselberg know, which is everything. and it will be much easier, whether it s a garden-variety tax clay s, or as i believe it s highly likely, a new york state racketeering charge. let me ask, let s go a little deeper into this, joyce. this transactional immunity. the new york times reporting that under state law, witnesses such as mr. mcconney, who appeared before the grand jury, are granted immunity on the
otherize and demonize anyone who isn t a white male. his bigotry, pure and simple. they may look like bad poll numbers. what they really are is racism. it s possible you will scoff at this explanation. it s whining and predictable and self-serving. it s also unsupported by evidence. so skepticism is a peer response. let s go a little deeper for a second. what we have here is not simply a cynical excuse for personal failings, when we heard a thousand times and politicians. racism. what is ocasio-cortez has given us, instead, is ast litmus test for our souls. it is simple. when you agree with alexandria ocasio-cortez, you are a good person. when you disagree with her, you are not. you are racist, if they, hater, loathsome human being. got that? okay. prepare for the exam. we are not proctoring this text. we are on tvg and you are at he or in a bar. we have to use the honor system. we will play you a series of
what he s saying. if you view it in the larger context of all the statements, standing next to vladimir putin monday, refusing to say anything tough or reality based what russia did in the elects, this is a president who for 18 months manufactured his own reality and republicans have gone along with it. what was different and why so many are not going along with it the same way is this is about our national security. and you could sit here and say we don t need to pass legislation. trump understands the threat. monday made it very plain and obvious, it showed the entire world he does not appreciate or care to see the threat posed by rush skpij that s why the reaction to this has been different, you see a white house and president who doesn t apologize or backtrack, backtrack being from the statement he made in the cabinet room and backtracking from what he said on monday. let s go a little deeper. the reason we know they re lying