is that the baltimore police will be the primary law enforcement agency taking action. that state police and other police agencies in the baltimore metropolitan area will support them. and will be in less critical areas than the baltimore police department. that s what i found out. okay. and, we ll, of course, watch cover these protests as they happen today. thousands expected to attend. leonard hamm, thank you so much for joining us this morning. thank you for having me. was he trained or wasn t he? new details about a tulsa reserve deputy who shot an unarmed man. concern from years ago that robert bates wasn t properly trained and a lot of people asking why was he still working? plus, bruce jenner tells diane sawyer and the world about the confusion he s felt all of his life.
failed to give him medical attention in a timely manner multiple times. leonard hamm joins us now. he s the former baltimore police commissioner. i want to start with your reaction to the admission by the current commissioner in baltimore. i think commissioner betts did the right thing. it was timely. very unusual for a police department to admit mistakes openly in a film like that but was the right thing to do. and i m glad he did it. you know, you say timely. the protesters have said that the time it s taken to get basic answers about the time line and what happened when, while freddie gray was in police custody has just taken too long. what do you say about that? i ve been involved in investigations many, many times before. and i think that you get
minutia questions but breaking it down from the moment he was arrested and when he gets to the hospital. i think they are doing a wonderful job doing that. this is how you gain the trust of the people that you serve. leonard, you know, i want to read you part of the baltimore city police department s policy on custody. it says officers must quote, ensure the safety of the detainee and ensure medical treatment for a detainee is obtained when necessary or requested. investigators say he asked for help. how concerning is it that that policy was ignored, leonard? it s very concerning to me rev. first of all, back in my past i was an instructor in the baltimore police academy and i was a director of that baltimore police academy. those are primary basic things that we drilled into the heads
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investigate, midwin? i think what these sort of yells and screams that freddie gray exhibited, and we saw it on the videotape as well so it s not just what the eyewitnesses saw, but we saw it too. you can hear him screaming for pain. i think that that s evidence to be used to say that these police officers had notice of the fact that this person is in pain and they didn t seem to budge, and their job as your other guest said is to ensure the safety of a suspect from the moment that person is arrested to the moment that they arrive at a hospital or at a holding cell or what have you, so the fact that you hear this person screaming and saying ow ow, ow this hurts or whatever, like we saw with eric garner and the fact that, you know the police officers do nothing, don t stop what s happening, or at least even acknowledge that the person is in pain is incredibly circumspect. you know, i think it s an interesting, leonard and midwin i m out of time that the mayor