are statistically significant and whether or not they coincided with the outbreak. there is no way of knowing who or if any of them may have died of an undiagnosed case of legionnaires disease. but what we do know is there was an excess of 70 deaths, pneumonia deaths during the outbreak of legionnaires disease, and in certain pockets of the city we found confirmed cases of legionnaires disease in the same neighborhood, confirmed pneumonia deaths. in one neighborhood we have a mile long, we ve got three cases of legionnaires and six pneumonia deaths. wow. that is consistent with the notion that, you know, some of these cases of pneumonia may have been undiagnosed cases of legionnaires . one of the things i think has gripped the country about what happened in flint is not just the tragedy of the city being lead poisoned and what that means for the kids there. this prospect of legionnaires associated deaths makes it all that much more stark, and there is this issue of the gover
more like 70. correct. how much of this is correlation? how close can you get to causation? so you know, what we found is we went through all the death certificates in the city of flint during the time of the outbreak, and we commissioned this team of epidemiologists to determine whether these deaths are statistically significant and whether or not they coincided with the outbreak. there is no way of knowing who or if any of them may have died of an undiagnosed case of legionnaires disease. but what we do know is there was an excess of 70 deaths, pneumonia deaths during the outbreak of legionnaires disease, and in certain pockets of the city we found confirmed cases of legionnaires disease in the same neighborhood, confirmed pneumonia deaths. in one neighborhood we have a mile long, we ve got three cases of legionnaires and six pneumonia deaths. wow. that is consistent with the notion that, you know, some of these cases of pneumonia may
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. lightsly that the legionnaires outbreak was bigger than that reported by officials. physicians had a higher level of awareness about the legionnaires outbreak earlier than they did, it s possible that that could have ultimately led to fewer cases and fewer deaths due to legionnaires . that s the number they came up is 70. and that last number is key. if the doctors had been warned to watch out for legionnaires , fewer people might have died of it, and a lot of people were dying at the time. the new report by frontline is by a different report using different data and different methodology to reach the conclusion there were dozens of deaths. the most likely number according to frontline is 70, 70 people dead. there is of course a lot we don t know. the michigan health department said the water coincided with an
have been undiagnosed case of legionnaires . one of the things i think has gripped the country about what happened in flint is not just the tragedy of the city being lead poisoned and what that means for the kids there. this prospect of legionnaires associated deaths makes it all that much more stark, and there is this issue of the government s own behavior here. i am struck in your documentary about the prospect that doctors knowing to look for this might have been the difference between people being alive today and being dead. that s right. that they needed to know that this was something they should be screening for. right. so not every antibiotic is effective against legionella. so doctors and health care providers have to know there is an outbreak in order for them to test for it. otherwise you might just show up to the hospital and you have symptoms of pneumonia, and they ll give you a basic antibiotic and it won t work and you ll continue to get sick and you might die.