republican party in the time when donald trump was already losing some steam. of course kari lake rushed down there, but she went there just to sing the latest for us of the big lie. she is not an elected official. she is the most recent loser in arizona. barb, how strange is it, or how unusual is it to have one special counsel looking at two separate investigations? it is unusual. i think there s a certain efficiency in having it. i suppose, in theory, merrick garland could have selected two special councils to oversee these two things. but i think it s not so unusual when you think about, for example, what robert mueller did. he was overseeing the whole investigation relating to donald trump. but there are a number of pieces to that. there was the paul manafort case, one in virginia, one in d. c.. there was the roger stone case. there was the mike flynn case. so there was a whole collection of cases there as well. my guess is they have had separate teams investigating the january
election. it s a huge rift for the republican party in the time when donald trump was already losing some steam. of course kari lake rushed down there, but she went there just to sing the latest for us of the big lie. she is not an elected official. she is the most recent loser in arizona. byron, how strange is it, or how unusual is it to have one special counsel looking at two separate investigations? it is unusual. i think there s a certain efficiency and having it. i suppose, in theory, merrick garland could have selected to special councils to oversee these two things. but i think it s not so unusual when you think about, for example, what mark robert mueller did. he was overseeing the whole investigation relating to donald trump. but there are a number of pieces to that. there is the paul manafort case, one in virginia, one in d.c.. there was the roger stone case. there was the mike flynn case. so there was a whole collection of cases there as well. my guess is they have had
just to sing the latest for us of the big lie. she is not an elected official. she is the most recent loser in arizona. byron, how strange is it, or how unusual is it to have one special counsel looking at two separate investigations? it is unusual. i think there s a certain efficiency and having it. i suppose, in theory, merrick garland could have selected to special councils to oversee these two things. but i think it s not so unusual when you think about, for example, what mark robert mueller did. he was overseeing the whole investigation relating to donald trump. but there are a number of pieces to that. there is the paul manafort case, one in virginia, one in d. c.. there was the roger stone case. there was the mike flynn case. so there was a whole collection of cases there as well. my guess is they have had separate teams investigating the january six matter from the mar-a-lago matter and jack smith will now be at the top of the pyramid of those two things.
the false russiagate story which i think the president s opponents thought they had him on the ropes with that. it was a phony scandal, and i dealt with it, and they didn t like it. howard: obviously, it had to be covered by the press because of the appointment of a special counsel. but you concede in the book that donald trump s rhetoric and his tweets made it easier for the media and others to attack your decisions as politically motivated whether it was the roger stone case, the mike flynn case or something else. at one point you went on abc and said the president s making it impossible for me to do my job. explain. right. when i talked to him initially about job, i said, look, the criminal justice process has to be insulated from politics. that s the chief responsibility of the attorney general. so you have to stay out of it. and he agreed to that. but what he would do is, you know, he has to give comment if tear on everything howard: yes, i ve noticed. [laughter] and when i
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