katy tur. can dominion win? new court documents are providing even more evidence that fox news hosts and executives knew the election was fair, knew the allegations of fraud were bogus, and that those pushing them were, quote, lying, and yet, pushed those lies anyway. it s remarkable how weak ratings make good journalists do bad things. former fox news managing editor and vice president bill salmon said the network pushed the false claims. maybe sean and laura went too far, rupert murdoch said of handy and ingraham, the day after joe biden s inauguration. it s been suggested that fox s prime time hosts should say something like the election is over and joe biden won said fox president suzanne scott to rupert murdoch. he replied that a version of this would go a long way to stop the trump myth that the election was stolen. all of these quotes show that what fox knew and said privately was a 180 from what the network was telling its audience, but does it clear the bar for defam
by fox. it raises sort of an additional first amendment issue when you re saying to a company you have to say this. now, that this case is so unusual that that just might be part of the relief that they obtained, that dominion obtains if they try and win the case. it also might be if the case is settled part of the settlement. this is the sort of thing that parties when they settle talk about, and it s conceivable. legendary first amendment go ahead. it s really no, on the first amendment side, you know, the more you tell a news organization what they have to say, the more you re moving into first amendment land. but can you call them a news organization given what you ve
territory. i mean, it s not that nothing like this has ever happened in a libel suit somewhere about something, but this libel suit involving something of national significance, i mean, what fox news says, what it does, how it behaves, how it comports itself when it lies, these are matters affecting the national interest as well as the interests of the parties to this case. and there are still millions upon millions of people who still believe falsely that the election was stolen. after all, there was also an insurrection on january 6th, which we re going talk about again in a moment in just a few seconds, actually. legendary first amendment lawyer floyd abrams, thank you very much for joining us today. appreciate all of your insight, and a lot of other avenues we can go down in this conversation. we ll have to save them for another day. what speaker mccarthy thinks