katy tur. can dominion win? new court documents are providing even more evidence that fox news hosts and executives knew the election was fair, knew the allegations of fraud were bogus, and that those pushing them were, quote, lying, and yet, pushed those lies anyway. it s remarkable how weak ratings make good journalists do bad things. former fox news managing editor and vice president bill salmon said the network pushed the false claims. maybe sean and laura went too far, rupert murdoch said of handy and ingraham, the day after joe biden s inauguration. it s been suggested that fox s prime time hosts should say something like the election is over and joe biden won said fox president suzanne scott to rupert murdoch. he replied that a version of this would go a long way to stop the trump myth that the election was stolen. all of these quotes show that what fox knew and said privately was a 180 from what the network was telling its audience, but does it clear the bar for defam
republican who is clearly don t like this, are you hearing anybody in the house on the republican side say maybe we re taking this a little far, and maybe worrying about what this lie is going to amount to later on. yeah, we quoted someone in our midday edition today, i think it was don bacon of nebraska who said that this is that the way carlson presented this was not was not appropriate, and by the way, katy, this isn t a debate. i lived through this, many of us lived through january 6th. we were in the capitol. this was not some sort of light hearted protest. this was an insurrection to stop the vote count of the presidential election, and don t take my word for it. like go look at the court transcripts and the depositions and all of the evidence that s basically in the public record of people kind of the people who made that attack, were part of that attack, that s what they said they were doing. you don t have to take my word for it. the interesting thing is, a few interes
for their time to testify sitting outside these krooms, and telling jurors who have to look at evidence and examine the facts here and not just listen to tucker carlson s propaganda trying to clean up an awful riot that happened on january 6th, and these guilty verdicts a lot of these defendants have, of course, pleaded guilty on their own because the evidence is so overwhelming, what you re seeing on your screen is brand new footage that was released just yesterday in connection with an ongoing january 6h. he s a buddy of didi rodriguez who drove a stun gun into mike fanone s neck and very nearly killed him. it triggered a heart attack. and the guy on the screen, the guy stuffing things into someone s bag, that s a few minutes after he drove a stun gun into mike fanone s neck and nearly killed him. there he is throwing things out of the bag as you have all of these going through this office
territory. i mean, it s not that nothing like this has ever happened in a libel suit somewhere about something, but this libel suit involving something of national significance, i mean, what fox news says, what it does, how it behaves, how it comports itself when it lies, these are matters affecting the national interest as well as the interests of the parties to this case. and there are still millions upon millions of people who still believe falsely that the election was stolen. after all, there was also an insurrection on january 6th, which we re going talk about again in a moment in just a few seconds, actually. legendary first amendment lawyer floyd abrams, thank you very much for joining us today. appreciate all of your insight, and a lot of other avenues we can go down in this conversation. we ll have to save them for another day. what speaker mccarthy thinks
all of these quotes show that what fox knew and said privately was a 180 from what the network was telling its audience, but does it clear the bar for defamation? is it malicious? we have the best guest out there, period, on the issue of what the first amendment covers and what it does not, legendary lawyer floyd abrams joins us in a moment. we also have still more fallout from another fox news decision. tucker carlson aired more january 6th footage last night claiming, again, it was a mostly peaceful event. bipartisan lawmakers at least in the senate are calling it bs saying they personally remember how bad january 6th was, how scary and threatening, which was raising more questions about why exactly kevin mccarthy thought it was a good idea to give carlson all that footage. was it a part of the deal to become speaker? jake sherman from punch bowl will help us answer that question because the timing is interesting. carlson s decision to start