washington monuments because the founding fathers owned slaves. now obama is seeing the light on cancel culture. but he was the king of cancel culture. you could not criticize barack obama without being accused of racism. or make fun of him. remember the rodeo clown that lost his job because he dared to wear a obama makes, which is standard procedure. barack obama went after people that disagreed with him politically. he tried to cancel and entire political movement with the tea party with going after them with government force. it s nice to see he s interested in how the left is going after his legacy. he doesn t want his legacy to be cancelled. greg: interesting. katie: now he s coming to the party and saying he s should have a conversation when he fueled this back in the day. greg: which one? jessie: i would agree that some of it is legacy protection. you have what he cracks jokes
contrast between, you know, so many democrats and so many liberals who really do feel that the apocalypse is upon us and the world is ending and obama saying everything s going to be okay. i think that s but i think there is an element in him too that is still trying to play trump a little bit. trying to keep the line of communication open. is it to play trump? is it to play trump? i was going to say trump or is it part of his legacy protection. i think it s both. he believes to the extent that he c influence trump to the extent that he can be a voice that is the administration is still open to by not making himself an opponent. he believes that he can continue to influence the country in a way that is beneficial. one thing you ll learn in the pence interview later. biden has forged a bond with pence and obama forged a bond with trump. i don t know if it s bs. i don t think it is. i think when you reach that