labrador was saying. my problem with this, it is all about the politics. my difference with dan s, what about the american people? i think the problem is, the republican plan isn t adequate. i don t think it covers as many people as obamacare. i don t think it drives down premiums, as you heard from congressman meadows. older people, especially. martha: the proof will be in the pudding. if people are unsatisfied then, it turns out to be the truth that people are paying more and the coverage is less, believe me, republicans won t get reelected. the fox news poll today had 54% not approving. martha: gentlemen, thank you. a pleasure to have both of you. still ahead, of the revised version of president trump s travel ban. as you know, shot down once again at the 11th hour. with this latest decision, based solely on legal grounds, or is that political on the part of this judge?
the art of the deal. maybe he is creating a budget that is absolutely, positively so toxic that he knows it won t get to the hill and he can get the thing more like what he wants without much movement. maybe that s it. but if not, i find this budget to be really, really heartrending for the seniors who depend on meals on wheels every day to get their dinner or the kids that wake up and watch sesame street or the african nations that depend upon the united states for their to be able to eat. all of those the other point i want to make here, i spent a month in africa with foreign service officers who do the work of maintaining peace every day when our military isn t there. 31% cut or over 30% cut to the state department and our diplomacy by far is one of the worst things we can do in the world. martha: i hear you. let me break and charlie hurt. interesting things happen when companies are told that they have to cut by 25%. they find places to cut the
past? can you get something through? not today but i am hopeful in the week to come, i know i am meeting with some of our tuesday group, the moderate members, defined some common ground. martha: thank you very much. good to see you. here with mark, dan hanh enter, wall street journal editor who just wrote a piece titled the gop s obamacare choke, and juan williams. gentlemen, welcome. good to have both of you here. i want to read a little bit of the piece that you wrote. let s put that up. so we can share it with the viewers. the wall street journal this morning. dan writes may be in politics, genes really our destiny. under pressure from a cbo score, the genetic disposition of republican politicians is to go wobbly. this movement conservatives is to get out the long knives and start carving up other conservatives. is that what you think he is doing? i don t think mr. maddow is doing that. at least not tonight. it is very interesting.
wrong to take something from a single mother of two in the form of taxes or a minor who is trying to put food on his table, in order to give it to a program that is failing as i think somewhat a revolutionary thought. not the kind of language we hear spoken in washington every day. not even failing. you are just taking the money from the mother come with a single mother with a child, in order to give it to some program may be as a break, great program. it is still something we have to say, is this right? martha: i want to circle back. i want to get your thoughts on the other part of the briefing, which was combustible. something else. what did you think? we see this side of trump that gives hope for his supporters. this is going to work, this budget, maybe he is doing deals, selling the health care plan. then, the stuff that we are reminded of the troubles he had when he was running for president when he gets stuck on something or when he first came into office. there is 5 millio
some others are doing that, people saying if they admire nancy pelosi, nancy pelosi never had anyone in her own party like raul labrador trying to carve up the speaker. mark met i was so interesting because he said i think we will get this worked out in the next week. it is a week. he said seven days. i think congressman meadow is not committed to the idea that through negotiation, they will be able to do some of the things he described in the wall street journal piece he wrote for us was ted cruz. it wasn t that major, martha. it was just as you said, moving to medicare expansion up about a year, expanding health savings accounts, these are the sorts of things that you would expect to be negotiated in a big piece of legislation. martha: paul ryan spoke very positively about the president. he said i am very impressed with his commitment to get this done. there is no doubt that mr. meadow is feeling pressure from the president. i think it is interesting to