afraid, but they have reserves sometimes to invite me or to allow me to speak in their lecture halls. i can feel it, so. but then that is why i feel it s myjob to put them in the test as well, so that the society, the local australian society, can see whether they are afraid and what they are afraid of. and they can feel the infiltration and the censorship, the self censorship, that the government is imposing onto themselves. i think this is a good thing against these kinds of confrontations. let the world see the real nature, not only the ccp regime s but their own government s, and how vulnerable they can be when they are in front of economic interests or other interests. what is the long term direction, do you think, of these relationships? and again, it s very interesting that you re in australia because the last australian government, led by scott morrison, had a pretty poisonous relationship with beijing and a lot of trade deals
and they don t tell me directly, 0h, we are quite afraid, but they have reserves sometimes to invite me or to allow me to speak in their lecture halls. i can feel it, so. but then that is why i feel it s myjob to put them in the test as well, so that the society, the local australian society, can see whether they are afraid and what they are afraid of. and they can feel the infiltration and the censorship, the self censorship, that the government is imposing onto themselves. i think this is a good thing against these kinds of confrontations. let the world see the real nature, not only the ccp regime s but their own government s, and how vulnerable they can be when they are in front of economic interests or other interests. what is the long term direction, do you think, of these relationships? and again, it s very interesting that you re in australia because the last australian government,
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