democrat values are in this bill. that gets to the question i want to ask. are we getting too hung up on the price tag and not focussed on the product as you call it, which is something that a congresswoman of washington said on lawrence o donnell s show. and i bring that up because is it possible that this bill, the reconciliation bill could come in under $3.5 trillion? still do all the stuff of the build back better agenda, but for less money? again, jonathan, i agree. it s the product that matters. there s shared values. whether it s 3.5 or if it s different costs because of the some other accounting, don t forget, we just marked this up through the house committees as of last week we were still finishing getting our cbo scores. what s important is what s in the bill is passed by the house. those are important values that are really going to help people. and joe biden is committed to
president heard secondhand, thirdhand and fourthhand from other people. in other words, rumors. well, cult is an interesting turn of phrase there. these are not going to be thirdhand hearsay witnesses. next week we ll hear from people who heard the alleged impeachable offenses firsthand from donald trump s own mouth. joining me is larry fifer, senior director of the white house situation room and former chief of staff of the cia. so great to see you in person. the last time i spoke with you, it was about the call itself. we talked about this on lawrence o donnell s show. as someone who ran the situation room, this is your job. what is the setup normally? how many people listen to the call, listen to the president on the phone and would you ever expect for a phone to call, incoming, to the president on his cell phone. when it comes to head of state calls you ll have a lot more people listening in on the phone than a call from another u.s. government official. but when a u.s. governm
forward to the next debate in houston. we know at least one more person will be there because the threshold has gotten a lot harder for some of these candidates. what have you learned about who else is joining that stage, ali? well you mentioned the threshold. when you put it up to at least 2% polling and 130,000 donors you re effectively doubling the things these candidates need in order to make the debate stage. it threatens to have the number of people who make the stage and can make their pitch to a national audience. we reported first this morning amy klobuchar has met the 130,000 donor threshold. she had already met the polling threshold. she is now the eighth candidate who is going to be on that stage. the really interesting thing about amy klobuchar is the way in which she was on the debate stage this past week in detroit she didn t attack many of her other candidates. that is something that kind of made it hard for her to have one of those pop out moments because we see the
i think she clearly understood what she was doing when she waved the red flag in front of trump and she got speared. i think to a certain extent, the story will be a terrible story for a day or two until we have a new chief justice or new justice tomorrow night and the story goes to the next round. this is a very aggressive team. they want to get things done. this is an active president. i think to a certain extent, a week from now we won t be paying much attention to this story. let me run more quotes by you. florida republican congressman said tonight on lawrence o donnell s show, by the end of this year we may see a president drifting toward an impeachable moment. your other good friends at the new york times wrote this in two headlines today, in days trump upends america s enduring image, and with little regard for basic governance, unleashed global chaos. that s not reading well. it s not well, you don t get to write the headlines for the new york times, unfortunately,
major progressive rights organizations, all at once, talking about this moment in progressive activism, cat rising moment in terms of anti-trump movement taking shape in this country. he has the head of planned parenthood, head of the human rights campaign, and talking about this moment. it is the big deal to have the heads of those organizations all together. that s this next hour live here on msnbc on the last word with lawrence o donnell. i want to tell you about something we are going to do tomorrow night on this show. something i m happy to pring you but i m happy to tell you i m worried about it, too. last night we spent half of the show talking about the new president and his public proclamation that we should take the oil from middle eastern countries and we may have another chance to take the oil from countries like iraq. we talked about how that is dangerous for troops who are deployed right now by the thousands in countries that are