0 about a conversation that i m not i m stunned that you can t recall that. so let s talk about afghanistan. the secretary undersecretary for defense policy, mr. kael says, isis-k poses a short term external threat al qaeda could launch attacks outside afghanistan within a year or two. do you agree with that? i agree that al qaeda has always presented and continues to present a persistent threat to the united states homeland. the question is what s changed? you say always. has any recent event changed the likelihood of an attack? i don t know. you don t know that we withdrew from afghanistan. i know we withdrew. i don t no if it will increase the risk from al qaeda or not. you are the attorney general of the united states. due to the lack of ability to have eyes and ears on the ground there was testimony and the unreliability of the taliban that an attack on the united states within six months or a year is far more likely after a withdrawal, you re not aware he said t
lines in our politics that should not be crossed. if they re crossed, especially on the criminal side, i have no problem with law enforcement getting involved, particularly at the local level. i don t understand why the federal government and the the department of justice and the fbi needs to be involved in this potential problem at all. i feel like if there are people issuing threats or engage in violence that is something for law enforcement to deal with. of course, it s totally unacceptable and serious. but i worry about with the feds getting involved and the attorney general from this administration sort of wading into this is that this is an attempt to delegitimize the legitimate complaints that many parents have with school boards, with teachers unions and others and to say well, because there might be some threat and some violence elsewhere, now this is a federal law enforcement matter so you better, you know, contain yourself, restrain yourself. maybe think twice about showing
general assembly legislatures meet different types of year and longer than 40 days and that s why ours looked like it came right after the election. the fact ha it did we had the senate runoff elections that finished on january 6th. january 5th. all right. do you think the fulton county investigation into the former president s role in perhaps attempting to manipulate the voting results in georgia is a legitimate investigation? it s a law enforcement matter and i don t comment on ongoing law enforcement matters. are you have you cooperating with that investigation given the role, your role in it if you will? i always cooperate with the law. my job is i m a constitutional officer. we follow law, follow the process, follow the protocols so we support and we will, you know, help any law enforcement agency that needs information.
we will continue to make the case that responsible countries need to take decisive action against ransomware networks. joined by ben rhodes, the former depth national security advisor under president obama and msnbc contributor and author of the brand-new book after the fall being american in the world we have made. i am excited to talk about the book. first, these cyber ware attacks. officials in the biden administration are, quote, hair on fire over these rising cyberattacks. they are moving to treat such attacks as a national security threat, using intelligence agencies to conduct counter-offensives. can you gifs a sense of what that weeks like? going after individuals or the state governments where these people live? well, first of all it s a shift from treating them like a law enforcement matter. treating it like a national security matter puts it in the intelligence community. part of that is how do you strengthening the cyber defenses
brand-new book after the fall: being american in the world we ve made. i m excited to talk about the book, ben, but first, i want to ask you about the cyber ware attacks. ken dilanian reports that officials in the biden administration are, quote, hair on fire over these rising cyberattacks and are moving to treat such attacks as a national security threat, using agencies to conduct counteroffenses. are we talk about going after individuals tore state governments where these people live? first of all, to shift from treating them like a law enforcement matter, like a national security matter puts them in the intelligence community. how do you strengthen your defenses and part of that is cyber operations. some of this could be going over groups that may be engaged in this criminal activity, but i think a lot of us who ve been in the national security space are skeptical that these groups could operate in russia without