to an administration official who said that they re still reviewing this and i think that really underscores how much this white house still hasn t gotten its act together in terms of getting on the same page and coming up with a plan to push back on impeachment. the release of the president s phone call summary didn t go quite the way it planned so they don t want another one out there. but you got something else i wanted to ask you have about. mike pence out publicly shows no daylight with the president, he stands by the president. but is there some instinct with him and the team around him, he s a long time politician, he s not a dumb guy, he knows what he s doing to begin to preserve himself and his own legacy if that can be done at that point some he sees the writing on the wall. he s going to see this new testimony from colonel vindman today. is he working behind the scenes to save himself? well, we know that people who are allies of the vice president are a little you know
inappropriate, that the request to investigate biden and his son had nothing to do with national security, and that such investigations were not something the nsc was going to get involved in or push. vindman says the second time he reported concerns was after he listened in on that july 25th phone call between president trump and president zelensky of ukraine. vindman is expected to tell lawmakers, quote, i did nothing. was proper to demand a foreign government investigate a u.s. citizen and i was worried about the implications for the u.s. u.s. government s support of ukraine. i realize that if ukraine pursued an investigation into the bidens and burisma, it would likely be interpreted as a partisan play which would undoubtedly result in ukraine losing the bipartisan support it has thus far maintained. this would all undermine u.s.
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us. gene robinson has the first question. gene. i just want to know what you make of this coming testimony by colonel vindman, where it sort of leaves us in this whole saga. and why somebody in the middle of that phone call didn t just hang up the phone. well, you know, the testimony is significant in some ways because it almost mutes the existence of the telephone call. we have someone who was on the call. we know his background, he s a deck core rated w decorated war veteran. i think the question more broadly for republicans will be this. how do they shift the defense of the president from a process argument to a more substantive argument? and i think it comes down to this notion that, look, if the president had a quid pro quo, if
president trump would attack him, that he could well lose his primary and that the president will not let this happen. but he s popular back home so it s another reason that the senate is an exciting place. the democrat who s there now, doug jones, the single most vulnerable senator. always a pleasure. thank you very much. to all of our viewers out there, you too can sign up for the axios a.m. newsletter. go to signup.axios.com. that does it for us. morning joe starts right now. we killed isis leader al baghdadi. they ve been looking for him for a long time. they ve been looking for him for many years. he should have been killed years ago, another president should have gotten him. but, to moe, it was very important. i d say all the time they walk into my office they say sir, we