In fact the union has itself based its requests of raises on the market so what the union is effectively saying you can look at the market if it produces a wage increase, but if it doesnt then we dont look at the market. That runs counter to what they agreed to in negotiations. Its certainly not consistent and not with our obligations under the charter. With your permission i would like to touch on a couple other points. Please continue. If i drink water is that like the republican okay. Sorry. I wanted to in view of time i know there is plenty of people that would like to peek and doubtedly chastise me but i would like to touch on the key element salary setting by any formula, standardization or comparable worth was changed in the charter. The unions proposed it. They agreed to it. They wanted the right to bargain about Health Premiums and about all of these things, and that is why we have the formula, the charter factors that we have and the labor language that we have, so i think th
Prop h, so with collective bargaining came a complete aggregation of the prior salaries standardization ordinances with the exception of the rns and the transit operators. In other words, not part of the 1996 charter. Okay. Thank you. So to the extent im sorry. We spoke on monday and on monday you said that the proposals that you have preserve comparable worth and that was one thing that we asked you to come back and tell us exactly how that has happened but knowing there are different standards presented from the standard discussed by ms. Keely looking at market surveys and two tiered system does not necessarily address comparable worth issues and we are seeing a reduction in proposed classifications and that widens what we set in terms of a comparable worth in the past so i would like to hear from you how you say how you know materially that we are preserving comparable worth . Considered from your lens or the lens that were looking at. I would say first although its my belief that c
Hard to reconstruct what it is because even if one wanted to do a historical look its whatever we say it is then. Well, the jobs have changed. Even if we have said a laundry worker is equivalent to a Data Entry Operator. The laundry worker doesnt exist anymore and it was merged into another classification. The Data Entry Operator doesnt exist anymore. We had 20 years of collective bargaining and unions making different decision how to spend the money and seiu decided to do one thing and they had obligations and laying a pure salary analysis is collective bargaining like things in the last Contract Health premiums. Unions have different provisions about premiums, about all kinds of things, and its somewhat driven by the market. Its driven by the decision in bargaining. To enroll 20 years of collective bargaining and say we should maintain the relationship that existed in 1994 or whatever year we pick because apparently those relationships changed over a 10 year period is virtually impos
Positions and the market, and in fact the union has itself based its requests of raises on the market so what the union is effectively saying you can look at the market if it produces a wage increase, but if it doesnt then we dont look at the market. That runs counter to what they agreed to in negotiations. Its certainly not consistent and not with our obligations under the charter. With your permission i would like to touch on a couple other points. Please continue. If i drink water is that like the republican okay. Sorry. I wanted to in view of time i know there is plenty of people that would like to peek and doubtedly chastise me but i would like to touch on the key element salary setting by any formula, standardization or comparable worth was changed in the charter. The unions proposed it. They agreed to it. They wanted the right to bargain about Health Premiums and about all of these things, and that is why we have the formula, the charter factors that we have and the labor langua
Has raised as you know, i have a copy of the contract language. Can you put that up . Sorry just before to finish up. I just want to say that the topic of the hearing i completely agree and want to thank supervisor avalos for calling it and i fully support obviously pay equity and comparable worth. The line of question there is if were making sure were at market we want to understand the implications of how that affects our gender or ethic classes of our employees but i want to get a sense of where we are generically as a market and Budget Committee Going Forward and if at market or below and above and i am all for evening it out and bringing people to what they should be paid and if were over paying people i want to understand that as well. I would say that steve will correct me if i misstate this. Every time we go into negotiations we do surveys. For example the Building Trades not represented by seiu are five to 10 above market and driven by the construction industry. Our police are