bill: 9:15 in new york. fox news confirming paul manafort and rick gates are indicted with 12 counts. conspiracy against the u.s. laundering money. false statements, seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts. bring in davey hopee former chief of staff for paul ryan and marianne march former advisor to john kerry. what do you make of what we ve learned so far on this? this is an indictment that was predicted more than a month ago by people. it is for things that happened well before paul manafort was ever involved with the trump campaign. they center around his representation of the ukraine and particularly candidate there and person who was president there who was very pro moscow. and exactly what happened here we ll have to wait and see. it has little or nothing to do with the campaign as far as we
be. certainly manafort is now under pressure, having been indicted and prosecutors can come to him and say listen, you probably should tell us everything you know. bill: what do you know about rick gates? who is he, what is his collection? long-time business associate with manafort and was working in that with the ukraine and came to the trump campaign with manafort. manafort was brought in in early 2016 as a delegate counter to prepare for the republican convention. after manafort left, gates went to a pro trump super pac and kept some connections with trump world although not in the white house or anything like that. bill: there was some thought that robert mueller would begin his list of charges against what would be considered small fish. i don t view paul manafort as a small fish, do you? that did not happen.
adoption. funny to think about that as opposition research being legal a few days ago? there are a lot of issues she has brought up. mueller didn t look at those right now. now is he trying to leverage those? i don t know. presumably there is some idea here he wants to go toward. but the important thing right now is whether or not there was any collusion. has been said by those who have seen it, there has been no collusion whatsoever that they ve seen in any of the things they ve heard in the intelligence committee on the hill. bill: let me advance the conversation here. i guess paul manafort will fight it and rick gates as well. how does the white house respond? what does the president do? over the weekend he had a tweet said just as republicans are getting ready on tax reform the distraction moves back to
district. in fairness kevin brady and others are working to get rid of that. my concern is there would be a tax increase for my district. i haven t seen the final package yet. when i do i ll go through it myself. i ll submit it to experts because i can t vote for anything which is going to increase taxes on my constituents. i m a ronald reagan, jack kemp disciple. i believe in growth economics and across the board tax cuts but i don t think we should take away deductions that would allow taxpayers along long island and new york to subsidize tax breaks for the rest of the country. bill: do you recognize that discussion coming from leaders of the republican party? i really thought we were against class warfare in our party. a rising tide lifts all ships. if you can get tax cuts across the board.
the biggest question, whether the president is going to travel to the dmz. the demilitarized zone in between north and south. over the weekend i talked to gordon chang. he was saying one of the real risks here is to the president s personal safety. but on the people who want him to do this say it s fine. that s in the bag. he won t actually face any risks to his person. he should go to the demilitarized zone to really show the regime there that we re willing to take this on head on and the american president is prioritizing it. bill: thank you, stay close. we ll rely on you for a lot of analysis of this out of washington thank you. sandra: paul manafort, the first to be indicted in special counsel robert mueller s russia probe. could more charges for others be on the way? congressman pete king will join us. he claims there is no evidence