made in october ridiculing her. the case is set to go to trial next month. well thank you so much for watching tonight. cnn tonight with alison camerata starts now. good evening, everyone. i m alison camerata. welcome to cnn tonight. we re learning more about the latest deadly school shooting. we ve gotten the body, the police body cam video. we re going to show that to you, and we re going to try to have a different conversation about guns with a longtime gun enthusiasts about what he thinks the solution could be plus another legal defeat for donald trump and a big win for special counsel jack smith, a federal judge ruling today that former vice president mike pence must testify to a grand jury. about what he what the then president told him leading up to january 6th. we re currently reviewing. but look, let me be clear. i have nothing to hide. well, obviously, this would be historic, a former vice president forced to give what could be damaging testimony against the preside
governors of virginia have been invited to be the commencement speaker at george mason, but there are 6700 signatures from students who don t want him to come because they don t like what he stands for now, part of me, says. college because they re gonna protest that s their job. but he is the governor. maybe they could protest at the polls or they could protest in a different way and not say they don t want to hear what he stands for. you know, it s interesting because on the one hand you feel like it s their commencement speaker . you want to have some voice in that, maybe i mean, if you don t want it, send the note to the administration and they ll make a decision if he comes sit and listen. you can hold a sign or whatever. if you protest too loudly, then you re in the situation of the stanford law. incident with judge kyle duncan of the fifth circuit where the students went really got very loud and chaotic, uh, protesting him and, you know, listen. this is not a first amendment iss
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speech and debate clause issue, which just covers his actions as president of the senate when he was overseeing so he doesn t have have to tell the january 6th grand jury anything about january 6th. if it relates to his role as presiding over the senate in the certification siding over, i think so, but it s not entirely clear and what likely is actually going to happen here, alison when it s all said and done, he s actually sitting in the grand jury. he may refuse to answer a question and they literally will get judge boasberg on the phone to sort through whether that s a legitimate vocation or not. i mean, it can go question by question. even was that right? so he why can t he just stepped through the fat? well he can plead the fifth if he thinks he has criminal exposure himself, but that both suggest that he thinks he has criminal exposure, and they might question it. they might say you don t so it s not a proper invocation of the fifth or we re giving you immunity. so you have to te
to the insurrection back with dan coleman, jennifer and l. z okay, let s listen to what mike pence said on cable news today about what he s going to do next. well we re we re evaluating the court s decision , how they sorted that out, and what other testimony might be required? we re currently reviewing but look, let me be clear. i have nothing to hide. i have a constitution to uphold upheld the constitution on january 6th. we re currently speaking to our attorneys about other proper way forward, and as i said, we ll have a decision in the coming days. so, jennifer what are his options now? so his options are to go ahead and go in and testify as he s been ordered to do. we don t know the exact parameters of what the judge told him. he could hold back, but he certainly can go in and testify about a lot of it or he can appeal. so it was trump s lawsuit. that was the executive privilege. one his pieces, the