members. i say, look, why not let them in? although it s legal, you know, that they are not in, and that the club has that right, why not, augusta let us in, let the females comes in. jenna: there are always sorts of clubs in new york city that are like this. there are social clubs, men s clubs, women s clubs. should all women s clubs allow men in, or is augusta different for some reason. augusta is very specific in that it s a phenomenal golf course that golfers want to play on, and the situation they are facing now is that one of their main sponsors ibm now has a ceo and she is female. in the past they have always given membership to their main krerbgs o sponsor and now they are facing a problem. there is a female ceo. i think the issue though is if people believe it really had anything to do with golf or socializing with men they d probably be okay with it.
most of us can accept and appreciate that same-sex organizes or clubs are actually good, we enjoy them, as women we enjoy them. people think that there is something different going on, that women are being excluded from influencing greater economic type of entities, because big business is playing out in augusta. augusta is a symbol of big business, of power, and it s something larger. jenna: you think it s more symbolic, that s why people have an issue with this specifically, not really about whether or not women can join the club and have lunch there and play golf. exactly. the reality is it s going to change. jenna: rebecca let me ask you this final point you mentioned what happened to the imb ceo. she s a woman this year, last year she with us not a woman. would we be talking about this if it wasn t a woman krerbgs o fowoman for ceo? can we pull the guest back on the screen, i don t want to just look at myself.
you take a look at the recent report from the last month, the unemployment rate is lower for women than it is for men. why the focus on women and job creation? is this more political than really economically necessary? it s economically necessary because even though women are in the work force, they are not making the same comparable wages as men do, so even though we have more women getting degrees from universities, many are still underrepresented at the higher ranks in management and also at the ceo level, whether it be in the public or private sector. so we re looking at pay equity, we re looking at closing that wage gap, because women only other than 70 cents on the dollar, plus women who are working hard need to have more information about what their counterparts are making. so we re looking at new kinds of data that we can collect so women can make that comparison and learn how to negotiate with their employers, but also, discuss that and have more of an open transparent discu