Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with indepth reporting and investigations. Thats what Rudy Giuliani said today. He wasnt arguing about that statement from Michael Cohen, who is alleging that President Trump did know about that meeting before it occurred. Rudy giuliani only said that he could state for the record that President Trump did not attend that meeting with those russian officials, which is not something that was in question in the first place. It was whether or not President Trump knew about it, which is something that his aides and President Trump himself have denied for months now, including that President Trump said he just found out about it in july of 2017, a year after it happened. And donald trump jr. Testified in front of lawmakers that his father did not know about it before. So it would be increasingly problematic. That is the question now, anderson. It is essentially the president s word versus Michael Cohens. But the white house does not seem to
politics. that is what you see when you see rudy giuliani on tv. he is proving to be an awful lawyer. that is what we are seeing. collusion is not a crime. that s a fact. as a democrat, as a lawyer, i can tell you that collusion is not a crime. but mail fraud is, bank fraud, wire fraud, obstruction, perjury. the list goes on and on and on. conspiracy. all of these things. the e-mails that were received by the trump campaign, the federal election commission views those at least of having a modicum of value. if you usurp those federal election laws you ve krcommittea crime. they re doing a really good job muddying the water. but there are the issues for criminality that donald trump jr. needs to be worried about, jared kushner needs to be worried about.
to be a political question about impeachment fought out in congress. it s been political from the very beginning. if it were criminal, a crime is committed and an investigation commences. that s not true. no, the crime that was committed. [ talking simultaneously ] one at a time. i m talking. their is is an investigation search of a crime. that s not true. yes it , it is true. the crime was that information was stolen from the clinton campaign. the question is did members of the trump campaign knowingly solicit that information for use in an election, and if that is true, that triggers all kinds of crimes. we re acting like this is something the russians did. no, that is stolen information. it s like if someone stole a car and you decided to take it for a joyride and said oh, i didn t know it was stolen. you can t do that. the fbi or justice department would be more than empowered to
hacking into citizens, dnc, those things should be investigated. but he s looking into things from ten years ago. are we saying karen mcdougal hacked the dnc? it s an open-ended investigation into donald trump s life to try to find something, why? to try to nullify our 2016 victory and delegitimize the president because his enemies in media and on the hill and even within his own justice department have been hell bent since the day he won to delegitimize. questioning people s motives, what they think about trump is not astound political or legal defense. in addition to him saying collusion is not a crime, he oddly said trump was not physically present at the trump tower meeting. and to me, that may be a way