Conversation between the president and his loyal confidant, Michael Cohen. This is a conversation where they discussed a payment to a former playboy model who says she had a ten month affair with then private citizen donald trump. The president s new attorney, Rudy Guiliani, tells cnn President Trump had no idea he was being recorded, and to add to it, the source says when he was told about the tape, this is what the president said. I cant believe michael would do this to me. The white house has denied, denied macdougals claims of this affair, and while the tape was seized in the fbi raids on cohens property, they say theres a trove of other recordings as well. Start with cnn justice correspondent evan perez in aspen. What do we know about this particular recording . Reporter well, brooke, this is a recording that Michael Cohen did apparently talking to the president about a payment to Karen Macdougal, former playboy playmate that claims she had an affair with then donald trump as a pr