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primary for 2024, that is the kind of resume you need to be a viable contender. joining us now is michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times and author of kingdom coming, the rise of christian nationalism. michelle, just humble servant of the people, these men. the messiah complex bundled with the just vicious, very destructive policy. there is no building vision here. and i m really struck at how much desantis is obviously mimicking trump and whether you think that is just a naked play to be trump light, or whether you think he thinks these policies in florida is going to work for him on the national stage. i think he thinks that these policies are going to work for him on the national stage. and to be fair, these policies are the reason that until his personality sabotaged him he was seen as the most likely trump alternative. i think the only way in today s republican party that that you
elements of its radical base. and now, the two have become so wedded that this hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. joining us now is texas state representative james talarico, who you just on those clips. also joining me is michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times, and author of kingdom coming, the rise of christian nationalism. representative james talarico, first of all, i think a lot of people in texas are probably very thankful for the line of questioning and the oratory that you have given on the subject of a lot of these bills. how do your republican counterparts in the state house manage this line of criticism? that this is nothing more than a blatant attempt to install white christian nationalism in the public school system? well, first, thanks for having, me alex. thank you for covering this really important topic. i sometimes have republican colleagues who approach me in
of kingdom coming, the rise of christian nationalism. representative james talarico, first of all, i think a lot of people in texas are probably very thankful for the line of questioning and the oratory that you have given on the subject of a lot of these bills. how do your republican counterparts in the state house manage this line of criticism? that this is nothing more than a blatant attempt to install white christian nationalism in the public school system? well, first, thanks for having, me alex. thank you for covering this really important topic. i sometimes have republican colleagues who approach me in private after these exchanges on the house floor or in committee, and thank me for my questioning. we have still got common sense republicans here in our state who are the dragged to the right by maga republicans, christian nationalists in their primaries. and so there are some who are thankful that representatives like me are speaking out against these efforts.