did john boehner say? don t judge us by the bill we passed. judge us by the bills we repealed. they were bragging about the complete lack of activity or productivity. it really has sort of gone beyond gridlock into sort of sabotage. this is great. this does seem to be a truce. if something is actually two sides come together and something is actually passed, it ll be, you know, it ll be an improvement, absolutely. all right. we are going to shift gears to a topic that is near and dear to my heart and i know both of you will likely agree with me. that is on the subject of hillary clinton 2016. and i say this. i will be full disclosure, yes, i ve worked for hillary clinton. i worked for her in the white house. i worked for her senate race. i am sick of hearing about 2016, not the least of which because, kiki, we have a president right now. he s got three more years. a lot of stuff that he needs our help on. yeah. i completely agree. the fact of the matter is, there s a president in
him halfway. i think the shutdown changed everything. it was such a debacle for the republican party. you know, they had embraced this sort of sabotage approach to nongovernance. i think the assumption was they weren t going to do that again in january. but what they re going to do, what they re going to agree to do, barely there. this mini thing that will get us a few extra months. it s sad this is sort of the state of, quote, budget negotiations. but as obama and democrats have found, when you re negotiating with people who aren t particularly persuadable on anything, you re lucky if you can use sort of a up and down-aid like that. kiki, just on the politics of that, i think eric makes a great point. if i m john boehner and i m anybody, frankly in the leadership in the republican party, part of my concern is, we ve got to have something that i know we are not going to shut the government down over. that s right. because they know they just cannot handle that another time. those
from the african-american community. won t that be good for her? won t that help her maybe fend off if someone wants to run to her left or things like that. there would have been a story there. the new york times decided, you know, she has to rebuild a bond. how do you rebuild a bond with a community that supports you 88%? right? maybe trying to get to the pope s number? 90 or something. just leave all that information out. leave all the context out. again, for the times, politico, washington post, a lot of these places, you know, when it comes to hillary, all news is bad news. they ve been covering the clinton foundation. it s like it s a charity, but it s depicted like a black star or something. you know, kiki, it used to be, the foundation does so much amazing work. for a time we were actually getting stories about that. now, of course, it s all gloom and doom. the other thing that really bothers me about this, i would say the two things are, number one, i think it s disre
forward. one question follow-up to you, kiki on that, immigration reformers, they ve been depending on a budget deal. i think they assume let s get that done, then we can get immigration overhamm eoverhaule. i think most of us feel that is pretty much unfortunately dead in the water. it should have been something, at least the dreamer portion, should have been something that could have gotten done a long time ago. well, it may have been able to have gotten done a long time ago. that s a disappointment. i m not ready to give up on that. maybe not the whole shebang. but the dreamer portion. if we can get the budget moving forward that lets a litling bit of oxygen back in the room, right? i would suggest come this spring the desire to have an agenda of accomplishments to come home with can be a fierce motivator to both sides. eric, i would normally agree with kiki. but i feel like as of the last since 2010, the motivation is to go home and say, here s all the stuff i stopped from
unemployment benefits scheduled to run out on december 28th. why? well, at this point, the deal seems more likely to be a little bit not too big, not too small, but just enough to get just enough support on both sides. while making it so that there s not too much damage done to candidates who are going to, on both sides, frankly, who ll have to go home and defend it in an election year. but the big question is whether or not for the first time in five years the gop won t move to derail the whole process. my friend kiki maclaine is a former adviser to hillary clinton and vice president al gore. eric bullard is a senior fellow for media matters. thanks to you both for joining me. glad to be here. eric, i want to start with you. we re hearing what s in, what s out. there s really been a lowering of expectations as we ve gone through certainly this last week. right. you think about how this used to happen five years ago. and for the last five years obama did talk about a grand bargai