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public.ll i know there s a lot going on right now, but this lawsuit hitting the nra right now feelst like a consequential freaking deal. joining us now is david pecino, senior staff attorney at the giffords law center which brought this suit. i appreciate you making time ds tonight. thanks very much. thanks for having me. i m not an expert in these y matters, either in campaign finance law and i m not a lawyer in terms of explaining these things. i just want to ask you if i got anything wrong in explaining how this is working. s no, that was exactly right. i mean, it s a really complex scheme on paper, but in part the nra was using the same people who were working for campaigns to place their independent spending. so the same person on friday that would be making an ad by for the campaign would turn around and make an ad by for the nra. as you pointed out, that s sfo impossible. so it was a really blatant violation of the law.a the fact that they used these shell companies to hid
0 race. virginia and new jersey are the only two states that hold their governor races in a year like this, the odd numbered year right after a presidential election, they are the only two states that do, if they do it every four years, all the way back to the 1980, every year t the president has seen the governor loose his race bothe in virginia and in new jersey. that s the way the pendulum swings. president biden this week actually became the first newly elected president of the united states since ronald reagan to not fall prey to that curse. to not have his party lose bothe those governorships. biden s democratic party did e lose the virginia governor s ir race but they won in new jersey, which we found out this time last night, when nbc news made the call. well, that said, tonight within the past hour the republican candidate in new jersey, jack ciattarelli, has just posted a video on twitter saying he is not conceding that race. he does not think this is over. he says he has a t