disseminate infoistraation to a lacale group of p and hplking a one of the things that we know about this administration is that eve3 thbody is a piece of the pie. there were 16 people in the oval office and when you put two pe male in the open office it is much less likely to leak because the suspe they s were leaachere ght ch smaller. the best thing they could do at the white house isd toeep a tighter ship. have less people listening to what you are doing. tishe c i s is the matter worse with his pleading and whoever is coy,seling hn l needs to advise him to stop making or bringing attention to these things and it makes it worse. he neeght to tim how do i saye needs to be advised properly on having control over his sdo metis>a. arthel: keisha and adam, i leave it there. we ll talk to you again on the wermesect i m sure. write a missing california converted teacher found alive more than two wee they after se vanished. the 33 -year-old told resaviers that she survived by eating bhas an
arthel: that s attorney general jeff sessions calling out the leakers and the media must also be held accountolicle for their role in prs dlishing information that compromises the safety of americans. here to disdrss is a defense attorney and a former prosecutor and alex little a defense attorney and formal prosedrtoecu welcome to you both. keisha, will start with you. how much li al room d ac s the j have an effort to target leakers and how much legal protection to the leaache leakers have? tisbut prosecution has to prove that thom c itmitted a crime or that th abour information is a threao national security. the problem that the attorney general will have is against the journalist because the sagurnalist is not gantng to be he, ir aleagountolicle for divug facts. arthel: i want to get there rega ting agendawilournalist but
alex, what about those inside the white house leaking infon yation that is a n g sance to the presidents and aggravating, what about those pe male? tisbut trouble prosecution. there s a difference between infon yation which is dat fieino the united states that gets leaked in wly to national s see urity in those cases to get brought in a brand broughtrmander the last two and ministrations and they were brought well before that. that s different than emo orrassing icounormation whih may not be classified but the president india they canes. do anything about. those cases will be brought because they don t violate the statutking a arthel: so will it stop anything, keisha? it depends. we have to look at the fact that since the espionage act was enacted in 1917 they re only been 12 prosedrtions against lefieen rs. it is very rare and it basically has to show that they c itmitted some the they are a threat to national security. and srthel: listen, in responseo attorney general sessions
that there s a threat to national s see urity or defense. arthel: alex, how do you see it? one reason it s hard to bring these cases is to get a prosecution, to get a conviction, you almost always have to reveal the a they ual infon yation it issued. you can t say hey, these guys lewould ed icounormation and iia secret. there has to be more forth to the jury so youemoe disgu osing the s see ret prs dligu y in the process of prosecuting. it makes these cases verking vey ha t. i dones. see this as a legitimae threat. this seems more a sountede of threat be mfor e by the presidet on foot or where he s clearly frustrated with the amoy,t of infon yation lewould ing out ofs and ministration but he s not the first president to feel that waa arthel: keisha, in what ways do you champion attorney general ugff sessions and what wly you challenge his new objective? i would say if there are valid reasons there is certain infon yation that could cause a danger to the citizens of this count3 th