personal dynamics within the white house. then you also have attorney general jeff sessions was going after more of the intelligence, the embarrassing details of trumps policy of foreign leaders and other information. those are the ones the pros see utable leaks that are e trump administration is trying to fdo it s been a few days seeing general kelly take the helm of the white house and will see how alkch effectiveness he ll have f trying to clamp down on those stories. fie sessions fdo leaks. arthel: that s the question, the plans for those who are petty leaks of information in terms of what is happening inside the walls of the white house. you have any idea, the plans for consequences if they root out those leaguers? reporter:d toelly has told executives staff members they need that loose lips sink ships and they put it. that s something where aides are continuing to release infon yation or their b aboung careless with what is going on it gets the white house off
alex, what about those inside the white house leaking infon yation that is a n g sance to the presidents and aggravating, what about those pe male? tisbut trouble prosecution. there s a difference between infon yation which is dat fieino the united states that gets leaked in wly to national s see urity in those cases to get brought in a brand broughtrmander the last two and ministrations and they were brought well before that. that s different than emo orrassing icounormation whih may not be classified but the president india they canes. do anything about. those cases will be brought because they don t violate the statutking a arthel: so will it stop anything, keisha? it depends. we have to look at the fact that since the espionage act was enacted in 1917 they re only been 12 prosedrtions against lefieen rs. it is very rare and it basically has to show that they c itmitted some the they are a threat to national security. and srthel: listen, in responseo attorney general sessions
that there s a threat to national s see urity or defense. arthel: alex, how do you see it? one reason it s hard to bring these cases is to get a prosecution, to get a conviction, you almost always have to reveal the a they ual infon yation it issued. you can t say hey, these guys lewould ed icounormation and iia secret. there has to be more forth to the jury so youemoe disgu osing the s see ret prs dligu y in the process of prosecuting. it makes these cases verking vey ha t. i dones. see this as a legitimae threat. this seems more a sountede of threat be mfor e by the presidet on foot or where he s clearly frustrated with the amoy,t of infon yation lewould ing out ofs and ministration but he s not the first president to feel that waa arthel: keisha, in what ways do you champion attorney general ugff sessions and what wly you challenge his new objective? i would say if there are valid reasons there is certain infon yation that could cause a danger to the citizens of this count3 th
attornom general will press this issue it will discourage sagurnalists from getting infon yation that is necessary for the citizens to feel comfortable ind tonowing what or government is dantng. i get the security aspect but we also have to balance that with the citepens having a rigwhit to know what is going to run with our government. our government. and srthethe tis before i worked as the intelligence agency and there are s see reation that should e lewould s for law enforcement ad intelligence. we are talking about fdo the press as antithetical to the public interest but that s not what this count3 th as well. we are about thow dee present telling what the government does and i h mae this effort by a general sessions. that. arthel: two weeks from now, more lewould s, hhe ac the leaks don t stop you are saying and i m hearing both of you sly fight to disembark back there