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kathleen, vashti was miserable again. she was feeling depressed then. so she and brett start facing a therapist, together, and alone. but things didn t get any better. so in the spring of 2011, vashti filed for divorce. this was an a spontaneous, oh i think i ll just get divorced. and i know she had thought eight through well enough. she had had enough of it and told kathleen so. she said, he s a grandiose narcissist and is not going to get better. it s not going to change. but was vashti depressed as brett was saying? not anymore said kathleen and rich. they talk to her all the time they said. and though she was sad about the divorce, she was looking forward finally to a happier life. she felt liberated, they said. was excited about her job. was losing weight, starting new friendships. i m planning a vacation with you?

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days to get out. could she please come home and let him tell his voice goodbye and just talk. i begged her to not go. as she said, kathleen, my only way out is to try to reason with him. she said, i m not a monster. i m not a monster. he has nowhere else. rich talk to vashti that friday about dinnertime. the whole conversation was, paces, how are things going in light of the situation. everything she said was, well, brett s having a really hard time with this. brett brett is really struggling with this. it hurt her that he was torn up. in less than 12 hours later, vashti was dead. kathleen rich told investigators that s the truth, as they saw it. they were certain brett killed vashti, made it look like

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and see f9 only in theaters. kathleen and rich were there. so was brett with his two. sounds not easy for any of them. and true as a way of looking so very different depending on who was doing the looking. which is why the minute rich found out something happened to his sister, he called the kingman county sheriff s office. i said, i don t care what you re being told, i don t care what you think you re seeing, i said you are dealing with a murder. a murder?

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