documents discovered at mar-a-lago. i struggle eve that the normal processes of this department can handle all investigations with integrity. and i also believe that appointing a special counsel at this time it s the right thing to do. the extraordinary circumstances presented here demand it. and that special counsel be jackson as he most recently prosecuted war crimes for the international criminal court at the hague, frank lucie is an msnbc national security analyst and a former fbi assistant director. joining me now, frank as always great to talk to you about the stuff. gave me kind of your first reaction to the appointment of jack smith and do you think it was necessary for the attorney general to appoint a special counsel here? short answer is no, i don t think it is necessary. i think for me as minutes an example of two things being true at the same time. by that i mean merit karlyn may have made a reasonable and
accountable. i think the mar-a-lago case is very unique and different from the kinds of shenanigans that trump has engaged in before. because it s quite straightforward and it s fairly simple. this is a stolen property case. he took records, classified records that were not his. he kept them in a place where he was not authorized to have them. and he lied about whether he had given it all back. this is something that people understand, people can understand the national security implications of it and is something that other people have been prosecuted for far less, quite frankly. and so i think it is a case that karlyn can sell to the public, they can get their minds are rounded, they can understand why someone would have to be held accountable. importantly, from an evidentiary perspective, this is very straightforward. in the sense that these were all trump s actions. he actually pretty much confesses to it on his social media platform every day. and we don t need to get into conve
happened to karlyn. and now this mother was about to hear the words every military family dreads. coming up what d they say? we regret to inform you. just like they always say. what the soldiers said next would leave this mom horrified and confused. so what scenarios are running through your mind? i couldn t even imagine what could have possibly happened. when dateline continues. , but there s no saving that casserole! [ both laugh ] i just love that word bundle. it s so fun. two things coming together like a force of nature, like it was really meant to be, y know? yes, yes, i do. and i m so glad you wanna save money. rodney, set up a bundle for jon hamm. mm! of course! jon, is it still cool if i catch a ride home with you? i never said it was. but technically you didn t say it wasn t. it s not. yet. did i tell you i bought our car from carvana? it s not. yeah, ma. it was so easy!
confidence, to his air, the way he carried himself. he was a decorated soldier. yes. did she like that about him? yes. they worked out together and they ran. they were very competitive. karlyn gushed about maliek to her friends. she said that he was a great man, that he treated her right. and then she told me they were engaged. engaged and expecting. pregnant, the army transferred her to fort meade, maryland, home of the national security agency and one of the agency s most secret and secure facilities. was she happy? was she excited? she was excited. she started working and absolutely loved it. top secret, some of it? she would say mom, i can t share anything about what i do. meantime, the army moved maliek to fort jackson, south carolina where he trained recruits in chemical warfare. the couple was 500 miles apart. while living by herself in maryland, karlyn became friends with another soldier, marisa manthey. marisa loved working with karlyn. she was the li
anchored by the laughlin air force base. karlyn ramirez grew up there. she was an easygoing child says her mom, susan garcia - ramirez. karlyn, when she was young, she was real calm and quiet. karlyn loved to sing. she would sing all the time. whenever she was out with her friends, you know, she would sing for them. reporter: rosanna flores was one of those friends. what was it about karlyn you that wanted to be her friend? her smile. her voice. her big heart. i can honestly say she never saw any bad in anyone. her friends, anais avara and valerie mckechny, say it wasn t all about singing. scl we d go to the local bar here and we d dance. and they say the dancing could literally happen anywhere. that s karlyn in black. fun times at the walmart parking lot.