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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

couldn t feel. my body went numb. i told her karlyn s gone. she s gone. she was a beautiful young mom doing important work. she was an intelligence specialist. some of her work was very sensitive. top secret. i believe she had top secret clearance. when she was found dead, everyone wondered, did her work cost her her life? i remember them telling me did she come into a lot of money she couldn t explain? maybe she was selling secrets? maybe. that s like out of a spy novel. what about other secrets? the personal kind. we knew they were having issues. right before they got married she found out that he was cheating. but somewhere out there was a stranger keeping secrets too. my data guy starts going through her facebook. she made reference to firearms in her social media. we saw that they were communicating her gas mileage. what a weird thing to do. a mystery that would drag on for months. and then, one final secret uncovered by science. you s

Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

i believe she had top secret clearance. when she was found dead, everyone wondered, did her work cost her her life? i remember them telling me did she come into a lot of money she couldn t explain? maybe she was selling secrets? maybe. that s like out of a spy novel. what about other secrets? the personal kind. we knew they were having issues. right before they got married she found out that he was cheating. but somewhere out there was a stranger keeping secrets too. my data guy starts going through her facebook. she made reference to firearms in her social media. we saw that they were communicating her gas mileage. what a weird thing to do. a mystery that would drag on for months. and then, one final secret uncovered by science. you start peeling the layers back until the number is visible. hello and welcome to dateline. texas native karlyn ramirez grew up surrounded by friends and family, then moved east after joining the army. she had a j

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:05:00

back. she found herself volunteering at an orphanage. well, she starts sending me pictures of a little boy that she s in love with, and she says mom, i want to adopt him. i said, no. in korea karlyn found another kind of love. she began dating a handsome sergeant named maliek kearney. she was attracted to his confidence, to his air, the way he carried himself. he was a decorated soldier. yes. did she like that about him? yes. they worked out together and they ran. they were very competitive. karlyn gushed about maliek to her friends. she said that he was a great man, that he treated her right. and then she told me they were engaged. engaged and expecting. pregnant, the army drafrd her to fort meade, maryland, home of the national security agency and one of the agency s most secret and secure facilities. was she happy? was she excited? she was excited. she started working and absolutely loved it. top secret, some of it? she would say mom, i can t

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:07:00

karlyn set up a nursery, and then on april 23rd, 2015 catalea vail ramirez was born. grandma susan was on the first flight from texas. what was it like seeing karlyn and her new daughter vail together? your baby s had a baby. yes, it was amazing. i got her and i wouldn t share her with anyone. vail was healthy and beautiful. karlyn radiant. their townhouse was filled with the joyful sounds of karlyn singing to vail. she particularly loved you are my sunshine. ? you ll never know dear how much i love you? she was happy. it looked like she found her purpose in life. three months after vail was born karlyn and maliek married in a small ceremony in south carolina. after the party karlyn went back home to fort meade in maryland with the baby. she said it was hard, the distance and not seeing him all the time. susan stayed in touch with

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her daughter. i spoke with karlyn every day, sometimes twice a day. but tuesday august 25th would be different. susan called karlyn that morning. and she didn t answer. and is that i mean that s unusual. you have such a close relationship. so i waited and i called her again. and she didn t answer. so i sent her an e-mail to her work e-mail. never got a response to that. called her on my lunch break. and she didn t answer. i said, if you do not call me back or message me, i m going to call the police. a now frantic susan reached karlyn s commanding officer at his home. he promised to have someone on the base find her. i hang up with him. and i put the phone down. and i hear a ruffle in the front rock we have river rock. so i looked out and i saw three uniformed soldiers. oh, gosh. and i knew. that just made me yeah. sick. that s what it did to me too. it s what any relative of a somebody in the military

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