altitude. warships from both countries now searching for the crew, which would be a two-man crew, if indeed the missing plane is an f-4. turkey also flies f-16s, most of which carry a single pilot. the prime minister tonight meeting with cabinet members. the prime minister s office saying turkey would respond devicisively once all the facts are established. this is, as you d imagine, a very fast-moving story. ivan watson is following it tonight for us from istanbul. barbara starr at the pentagon. also with us, the senior fellow at stanford university hoover division. fran townsend as well. who presided over many tense moments as homeland security adviser to president george w. bush. you say there s little doubt syrians knew this was a turkish plane? absolutely. i think this is a message being sent by the bashara scream to turkey. turkey s four times larger. turkey s a nato member. turkey has stepped into the weariven the ement if you will. my now tou mediation of the turks.
you re able to be put in touch with companies or store you you might not otherwise know about at all. if amazon then severs their relationship with those businesses, it really hurts those businesses. i think it comes isn t that, karen, just amazon using the leverage of jobs to blackmail the government and not to do sure. we have the game rigged now with a dig count and if you want to end the game rigging we re going to take away the jobs in your state? but dylan a funny way to be. isn t it? well, this is the world of business, i suppose. it goes to your broader point in terms of, you know, how we need to rethink and restructure thing. jimmy was talking about having worked on these laws in eight 97-98. this is not where we are and not what s happening. i think it s we need to rethink this. i totally agree and would say the statement you just offered
up, karen, applies to everything. we re basically stuck in a political debate, a democratic party, the republican party is stuck, the media is stuck, because the rate of change is so high, no one is prepared to deal with what actually exists in terms of both out of liabilities and opportunities in the summer of 2011. i believe it is our mission, actually, to help bring that conversation along, and allow ourselves to be pulled along in the process. i do want to take a little bit of a different look what reality is in 2011 when it comes to money and politics. jimmy, this is for you. take a look. democrats say we ve got to raise america ses 14.3 trillion debt ceiling before august 2nd because if we don t do that ah wait. what happens again? armageddon. armageddon. no, no. that wasn t it. no. that s right. economic system. or actually move the date,
we have those that support us if we re doing this, how much would it cost to give adequate representation by order of magnitude? tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions? the vote behind claudio, how s about that? a high ticket. a good looking boat. claudio, thanks for shares your story with us. claudio ballard, specifically exempted in a piece of bank legislation brought forth by chuck schumer so that the banks no longer have to pay him. the fee is son his patent at time when effectively the president and others are reforming patent legislation to the benefit of those who can file quickly and to the detriment of those who maybe small and not have the sophistication or attorneys immediately available to do so. as we take a break here we bid adieu to our panel. catch jimmy and karen next week and take a break.
about policy, not about who you re buying. we re buying our politicians. it s corrupt. it s disgusting and it s sick, and nobody is the question is, will the colbert effort, in your view, karen, help to amplify and drive home the point that we are all making and jimmy just made? i certainly hope so. i mean, i really hope that it is, in a way that, sometimes usually where you very graefkly show people this is how we connect the dots and this is what s happening. it s getting people to pay attention to this issue in way they weren t, actually. as jimmy was saying, the situation corrupt and we just had another decision last week that basically, again, tipped the scales. go ahead, susan. it s great we re having a conversation like this on the show, but when most of the people under 40, half, get their news from a channel, they tune into comedy central. isn t there something warped there that we re talking about this? this is how he s going to raise