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who are the brothers? you two are brothers? it was like a few weeks ago. we had did some stuff over at the bus station. but they just not coming to get us. there are a few places in this world more tightly secured than the closed confines of america s juvenile justice system. but for some kids the revolving door of lockup seems to snag one generation after the next. my dad, he s locked up. so right now it s just my mom and my six sisters and my nieces and nephews and my brother and they all have no man of the house to look up to, to teach them what s right and what s wrong, so it s been hard. 30 miles south of chicago mary beth presides over a numbing juvenile docket. 30,000 cases in 2008 alone. it s her job to make sure the kids that come to this detention center and court complex leave
so as we re going to break, we were talking about the idea that from the shores of guatemala through mexico and over the u.s. border, a lot of those kids that you ve been seeing in those detention centers ultimately end up before a federal judge or some kind of judge, but not always with an attorney. they re entitled to a hearing. it is a very complicated matter. so thank god jean casarez is here and is a lawyer. and you have just come from one of these federal courtrooms where juveniles are actually making these appearances. walk me through. i just got here. i didn t know what to expect because i had never been in a juvenile docket of immigration court. you step off the elevator, big sign, pro bono room. if you as a juvenile do not have an attorney, you go to the left and you get an attorney. you cannot appear before the judge. but you don t get access to a public defender, right? it is a pro bono, someone that is volunteering to be an
and nephews and my brother and they all have no man of the house to look up to, to teach them what s right and what s wrong, so it s been hard. 30 miles south of chicago mary beth presides over a numbing juvenile docket. 30,000 cases in 2008 alone. it s her job to make sure the kids that come to this detention center and court complex leave here and forget there s an option of graduating to the adult prison system. i think some children are born into a situation that s a bad one. in some neighborhoods it s like do unto others before they do it to you. for those of us not raised in those types of neighborhoods it is difficult to understand. sometimes it s just the survival. they have to perpetrate before they re perpetrated against. for years msnbc has been documenting the tragic stories that unfold in america s juvenile justice system. with extraordinary access from the indiana supreme court, we re about to go inside a world where cameras are by law forbidden to go. you guys ar
and nephews and my brother and they all have no man of the house to look up to, to teach them what s right and what s wrong, so it s been hard. 30 miles south of chicago mary beth presides over a numbing juvenile docket. 30,000 cases in 2008 alone. it s her job to make sure the kids that come to this detention center and court complex leave here and forget there s an option of graduating to the adult prison system. i think some children are born into a situation that s a bad one. in some neighborhoods it s like do unto others before they do it to you. for those of us not raised in those types of neighborhoods it is difficult to understand. sometimes it s just the survival. they have to perpetrate before they re perpetrated against. for years msnbc has been documenting the tragic stories that unfold in america s juvenile justice system. with extraordinary access from the indiana supreme court, we re
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