on a tour. so i walked around. watch this exchange i had with sarah bloomfield, the museum director. we re speaking about the shoes, the shoes that are on exhibit at the museum. watch this. these are shoes, old shoes. this is one of our most iconic exhibits. if you visit these killing centers today, you see thousands upon thousands of shoes like this. the shoes of the victims. the germans took their shoes because they were going to reuse them and recycle them, if you will. but of course the victims would be killed. but this is what is left of those lives. these shoes are 80, 90 years old and they re here. the only surviving elements for all those people who were exterminated. this is the trace of the people before they were gassed. i think of those shoes. my four grandparents, we didn t have anything. nothing was found basically. it s just horrendous, horrendous situation. it s so important, so timely to remind people who don t know anything about it. and i think
if you visit these killing centers today, you ll see thousands upon thousands of shoes like this. the shoes of the victims. the german took their shoes because they were going to reuse them and recycle them if you will. but of course the victims would be killed. this is what s left of those lives. reporter: these shoes are here and the only surviving elements where all those people who were exterminated. this is the trace of the people before they were gassed. reporter: i think of those shoes, you know, my four grandparents. we didn t have anything. we had nothing. it was just horrendous, horrendous situation. it was so important, so timely to remind people who don t know anything about it. and i think it s so important and i m sure you ll agree, jim. people who come to visit washington go to the washington mall. take a tour of this museum. even those of us who have grown up, children of holocaust survivors, we learn a lot every time we go there, and it is so importan
and more. we re going to dig into what that really means. and what does the justice department mean when it says there are, quote, a significant number of civilian witnesses? just what did they know and what does that number mean and what is the context and how did they help this investigation? the former president can t possibly be taking this well. people in his midst were talking to investigators? i m going to get into that too. then after our journalists, i m going to talk to our legal and investigative pros that are on this set right now and they have their copies of the affidavit. we ll see what they think and what goes through their minds and how to view it through their expert eyes and how they look at a line like this one. quote, there is also probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at the premises. do they think there was enough probable cause? we re going to break it all down. and then of course there s this, and i want you to focus on at
phone and called the fbi, but that the justice department and the fbi had spent a significant amount of time building witnesses, working evidence before they even got in the door of mar-a-lago. which makes sense, right? think about this, jessica, because there s significant you don t have a probable cause finding, the judge will say, oh, former president, you ve got one witness? great, bring the person in. and not only to peter s point did doj do things by the book here, but they gave significant deference to trump s legal team. they tried to work with the legal team. it goes through this timeline even more in depth in this affidavit. the fact that the national archives referred this to the justice department in february, then it was sort of sat on until mid-may when the fbi was finally able to go through those boxes and see just how highly classified the material was inside. throughout this process, they re going back and forth with trump s lawyers, giving them the opportunity t
about what it tells us and the overall picture that it now creates and most importantly what it means. let s go to our three top reporters, justice correspondent jessica schneider, kristin holmes and kyle cheney. i m so glad to see you all here. we ve been waiting for this information. although it s redacted, there is a lot there. kyle, let me begin with you here, because now we know the tally of classified info just in those january boxes, right? 184 classified documents, 67 confidential, 92 secret, 25 top secret and what s more, some of these docs had an alphabet soup of markings like hcs and si and orcon. what was so alarming to the investigators about this? well, that alphabet soup you just described really gave us the best sense of why the justice department took this as seriously as they did. hcs, that s human source