Whatwe that means, its to use e power of the office to obtain an improper personal benefit while ignoring orfi injuring the national interest, or acts in ways that are grossly inconsistent with and undermine the separation of powers that is the foundation of our democratic system. Now, this question of whether the president engaged in abuse of power came up before when this congress considered the impeachment of president nixon. And president nixon famously said, if the president does it, it is notde illegal. And this body rejected that because thats not so. That goes directly contrary to what the founders said. But President Trump has said the same thing in responding to the prior investigation by the Department Of Justice and defending his conduct. Heres what he said. I have an article 2 where i have the right to do whatever i want as president. That he has the right to do whatever he wants as president. That is as wrong as when president nixon said a similar thing. That is not what
Statements. The whistleblower got caught with chairman schiff. Remember chairman schiff, the person that the democrats instead of the House Judiciary Committee which spent a full week on this, thats not whos been in charge. The person they put in charge was the person that got caught with the whistleblower. Have you spoken directly with the whistleblower . No, we have not. Wed like to. That wasnt true. The person that said he had evidence of the first fake impeachment scam, collusion with russia, had evidence of that collusion and didnt have it. The person who in the course of that read into the record the steele dossier because the people needed to know the truth about what happened. Well, we heard about the truth about the steele dossier this week when the Inspector General told us it was all garbage, rubbish, all made up, yeah, that chairman schiff, and now he got caught not being truthful about
a whistleblower who as i said you the other day didnt Tell The Truth verbally and in wri
And the controlling law. Use of an obstruction theory from the Mueller Report would be unsupported, unsupportable in the house and unsustainable in the senate. Do you remember writing that . Yes, i do. Why did you write that . Because i think its true. The fact is that this was reviewed by main justice. The special counsel did not reach a conclusion on obstruction. He should have. I think his justification quite frankly was a bit absurd on not reaching a conclusion. But the attorney general, Deputy Attorney general, did and they came to the right conclusion. I dont think this is a real case for obstruction. But then this body would be impeaching the president on the basis of the inverse conclusion. I dont believe it would be appropriate. The gentlemans time has expired. Ms. Dean. Thank you, mr. Chairman. Words matter. In my earlier life, professors, i was a professor of writing. I taught my students to be
careful and clear about what they put to paper. That is a lesson that the framers
Mr. Eisenberg, he told me to take my concerns to him. And, theres a period of time in it wasnt that long a period of time, but it was enough time for me to enough time to talk to someone who you want i will assume it is, right . Ive been instructed not to, representative jordan. Hes what im getting. He told you not to talk to any of the people and you interpret that as not talking to your boss. But you talked to your brother, you talked to the lawyers, you talked to secretary kent, and the one guy adam schiff will let you tell us who he is. Is that right . Representative jordan, i did my job. Im not saying you didnt. All im saying is the instructions from the lawyer where that you shouldnt talk to
anybody, and you interpret that as dont talk to my boss, but im gonna go talk to someone that we cant even ask you if that individual is. That is incorrect. I just read what you said. I shouldnt talk to any of the people. The time of the gentleman has expired. Im sorry, mr. Chairman, that seq
Government. And then simply says, but you can go to court because thats how things always work. Again, its just important to remember. The facts are clear. No president has ever, ever, ever obstructed congress in the manner that weve seen from President Trump. Will the gentleman yield . In a moment. And so as as we go forward, and i dont know how much longer well be here. Its always important to makel sure that the facts are clear. And that we dont muddy the waters by suggesting that something that is sosu unprecedented, that weve never seen before in the history of our country, is somehow just a parcel of thes way things work around here. They dont. Know it. Friends on The Other Side of the aisle know it. The American People know it. But mr. Johnsons right. Sometimes its important to remind them of it. T. I yield. Will the gentleman yield . Nt thank you. I just want to add a little
constitutional postscript to underscore the verye important point that mr. Deutch is making here. The ar