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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191224 04:29:00

. an absolutely perfect phone call to the new president of ukraine. that was a perfect call. had a perfect phone call with the president of ukraine, like i mean perfect. the phone call that was perfect. a perfect phone call, i made a perfect call. not a good call, a perfect call. a friend of mine who s a great lawyer, did you know this would be the subject of all the scrutiny because the way you express yourself this was like a perfect call. it was a perfect call, in fact, it was two perfect calls. a perfect phone call, an absolutely perfect call. the thing is, however, we keep learning new details surrounding that july 25th phone call that the president has repeatedly called perfect with ukraine s president volodymyr zelensky. the washington post reports 29 times in the past three months president trump has used twitter to implore the country to read the rough transcript of his july 25th call. the president has also instructed his gop allies to use a similar defense wr

Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20191224 07:30:00

ukraine s president volodymyr zelensky. the washington post reports 29 times in the past three months, president trump has used twitter to implore the country to read the rough transcript of his july 25th call. the president has also instructed his gop allies to use a similar defense, writing on twitter back in november, the call to the ukrainian president was perfect. read the transcript. there was nothing said that was in any way wrong. republicans, don t be led into the fool s trap of saying it was not perfect but is not impeachable. no, that is much stronger than that. it is much stronger than that. nothing was done wrong. one annoying, small fact to inject here. we never got a transcript. we would in fact love to read a transcript of the call. we were given a summary by the white house, and there is already sworn testimony that the summary is wrong. it s incomplete. be that as it may, isn t it still all about words? and to that end, it is our great

Transcripts for MSNBC First Look 20191224 10:33:00

that there s a complete disconnect when it comes to him and his people with the objections that a lot of us have to the appropriateness of that call. the details are just utterly ignored. they re not playing the same game we are. they re not indulging in facts and reasoning. they re doing something else because they see themselves as having a higher purpose. they think that there s a larger story and that history will pardon them. the problem is the larger story is clearly built on sand. what about when you look behind him at a rally and someone is handed the crowd read the transcript t-shirts. we can t, again, we would love to read the transcript. we were given a summary replete with gaps and ellipses. and of course if we actually could read the transcript, the people reading the t-shirt wouldn t read the transcript. the issue isn t what the transcript would say and whether or not the president was doing something that was inappropriate. we re supposed to think of the phone call a

Transcripts for MSNBC First Look 20191224 10:05:00

aid to ukraine. van hollen believes trump may have violated the law by not telling congress. we ve asked gao to take a look at this argument. i think to the extent that they agree, it will just be more evidence on top of the already mountains of evidence that this was far from a perfect call and a perfect action. tonight the washington post reports this. at least 37 republican senators are expected to vote against both articles of impeachment against president trump. they go on to say it means that it is mathematically impossible for trump to be removed from office assuming this 37 number holds. but that is, after all, all the way into next year, and let s bring in our lead off discussion on a monday night here in late 2019, joe colvin white house

Transcripts for MSNBC First Look 20191224 10:32:00

his base is calling it a perfect call seriously. a friend of mine is ron poe peel, maybe the best marketer of the last half century on television. this is marketing, introducing a concept we didn t know existed before and by sheer weight of insistence and repetition making it a thing. mm-hmm. it s interesting calling a phone call perfect, and that that wasn t just a tick. when i first read that i thought that s just the way he happened to put it when he was sitting there eating funions and typing one night. you usually call something perfect when you re rating it from a distance. it s as if he s judging some sort of beauty contest or something, it was perfect, which shows you how far he is from thinking about what the issues really are, with why people have issues with the content of the call. the marketing part comes in in

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