who is best placed to offer an alternative? well, my guest today isjulius malema, leader of the radical populist economic freedom fighters. if malema were to get even a share of power, what would that mean for south africa? julius malema, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. thank you very much. it s a pleasure to talk to you, mr malema. we are speaking as south africa is in the middle of an energy crisis. it seems set to get worse. what do you think it is doing to this country? well, its aim is to collapse this country and undermine the democratic project, because those in power have relegated their responsibilities, to who, we don t know. they have not maintained the power stations. they have not built the new ones that are functional. and as a result, we are where we are. the interim ceo of eskom, the state owned energy company, said yesterday that over the coming months of winter they might get to a stage eight situation, which means there could be power cuts for pretty much 1
took a donation of a millon pounds from the bin laden family of saudi arabia two years after osama bin laden was killed. the family disowned him in 1994. now on bbc news, it s hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. south africa is in a long term flirtation with political and economic chaos. mass unemployment, power cuts and rising crime are stoking discontent and instability. my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in a cris
my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do much better work, because i don t think that mr ramaphosa has got a coherent plan as to how he s going to save south africa. but that s not the way democracy works, mr malema. mr ramaphosa has a mandate given to him by the south african people and, indeed, if you look at the business community, if we re talking about the e
of birmingham. this is bbc news. now, it s time for hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. south africa is in a long term flirtation with political and economic chaos. mass unemployment, power cuts, and rising crime are stoking discontent and instability. my guest today isjulius malema, former anc loyalist turned populist enemy of the ruling party. could one of africa s richest nations be consumed by insurrectionist violence? julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do much better work. because i don t th
julius malema in bloemfontein, south africa, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much. mr malema, south africans are facing a very grave economic crisis. there s deep uncertainty in the country. why are you adding to that uncertainty by calling for the removal of president ramaphosa? it s the most logical thing that, when a leader of a current government doesn t perform well, or the country is in a crisis, that leader should leave office and give others an opportunity who can come and do a much better work. because i don t think that mr ramaphosa has got a coherent plan as to how he ll save south africa. but that s not the way democracy works, mr malema. mr ramaphosa has a mandate given to him by the south african people. and, indeed, if you look at the business community, if we re talking about the economy, it seems business leaders think that removing ramaphosa would actually make south africa s situation worse. no, democracy works like that. that s why our constitution pro