of appellate process in moving forward with a judge in saying, you know, here we were, your honor. we went and abided by your instructions with privacy, with jurors, et cetera, et cetera and yet we came up with a jury that was deadlocked. thanks so much for your time with us today. jury consultant. also joining us, julie zasmer following the story for the washington post. julie, so close by. i know the washington post is covering everything since freddie gray s death. can i ask you about the atmospherics in baltimore? how deep is the concern that a hung jury and a mistrial leads to some more unrest? well, it is a mistrial. it is not a not guilty verdict. we don t know. there are a lot of elected leaders, judge leaders who have pledged no matter what the verdict would turn out to be to be on the streets of baltimore today talking to the community, trying to reassure people and
and people weren t injured without seat belts and with that standard, it makes sense they had a hard time saying, well, no, he probably didn t buckle the seat belt and call for a medic but was that a crime? they couldn t make up their minds on that very tough question. julie with the washington post thanks so much. let s go back to joy reed here in the studio as we start to see some pictures, not sure, are those live pictures coming in, guys? okay. those are live pictures, joy, coming in from baltimore. keeping an eye on that. as julie just said, there were plans in place that once some kind of verdict came down there might be those to demonstrate just to have their voices heard. yeah. as she said, that is hung jury, a mistrial. not the same as not guilty. the plans became a feature in the trial because william porter s attorneys argued that a letter that was sent by the school district home to parents and essentially saying that they would not permit any walkouts or demonstr