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polarizing decisions, issued by the court on abortion, gun rights, and today s ruling limiting the epa s authority to fight climate change. we are going to have much more that ruling specifically, and on the future of the court, and its newest member just ahead. before we get to all of that, do you remember when the donald trump campaign was caught scam in its own donors. i just have to redo the lead from the new york times, the story that broke the scandal open. quote, stacey black was in hospice care and september 2020, listening to russia limbaugh s dire warnings about how badly donald trump s campaign needed money, when he went online and shipped in everything he could. $500. it was a big sum for a 63 year old battling cancer, and living in kansas city unless than $1,000 a month. but that single contribution, quickly multiplied, another $500 was withdrawn the next day, then $500 next week, and every week through mid october without his knowledge, until mr. blasts bank acc

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presented with evidence about what happened, and she came to the conclusion that he falls into the category of those who would be disqualified, but for the fact of the office that he seeks, or the office that he once held and the oath that he took. and so i think that s relevant. certainly, maybe not in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion, the idea that this looks like insurrection and he looks like an insurrectionist, i think is very relevant. thank you to both of you. i actually have a lot more to discuss with you, but this is the way things go these days. melissa murray is a law professor at nyu and an msnbc legal analyst. julia lithwick is the senior editor at slate, and author of the important book lady justice, women, the law, and the battle to save america. still to come, we continue our coverage of the breaking news and the fight over donald trump s eligibility to run for president again. just moments from now, i ll be joined by the colorado secretary

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harvard s laurence tribe and the retired conservative federal judge jay michael luttig, declared that the constitution prohibits trump from ever being president again, based on section three of the 14th amendment. since then, there s been movement in court in multiple states where efforts have sprung up to enforce the 14th amendment. one case, seeking to disqualify trump was dismissed by the minnesota supreme court, but that case was specific to trump being on the primary election ballot for the republican nomination, so the argument could be brought before the court again for the general election ballot. in another case in michigan, a judge ruled that it was a non-justice-able political issue, that should be decided by congress, not by the state. just yesterday, the petitioners appeal that ruling to the michigan supreme court. but this ruling out of colorado is particularly interesting, because the opinion goes further that any of the other judges have been willing to vent

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that is something to digest for a moment. because, after what we saw on the 2020 election, with states trying to send fake electors to congress, this could lead to catastrophic consequences for our democracy. or at least extreme partisan gerrymandering across the country next time they get the chance. this case is about north carolina, but if the conservative justices rule in favor of the republicans, it could have an outsized impact. because, republicans control both houses of state legislatures in 30 states. what is the future of this conservative court look like? what can we expect next term? i am just a person to ask, joining us now is julia lithwick, a senior editor and legal correspondent for slate .com. delia, good to see, you thank you for making time for us tonight. north carolina, about state legislators having absolute power over the elections in the courts can get involved in

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closely. you are not pessimistic and skeptical about the court, typically. well, i am now. you are. now there are a lot of people who are in the same position. they weren t before, and they are now. delia, thanks for being with us, regardless of where you stand about, this we will talk to about, those because you re one of our best minds about the supreme court. she s a senior editor and legal analyst for slate.com. the past three conservative supreme court justices were nominated by a president who lost the popular vote, and they were confirmed by senators represented a minority of americans. the current conservative majority on the court is, in effect, minority rule. how do we fix that? that is next. w do we fix that that is next

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