The Appeals Court hearing on Donald Trumps Immunity Hearing has wrapped up. The threejudge appellant panel facing this big question can the former president be held criminally responsible for actions that he took while in office to overturn the 2020 election loss. We heard a remarkable argument from trumps team who heard the argument that prosecuting a former president would open up a pandoras box as john sauer said that working in the capacity as alleged in the indictment by jack smith, the Special Counsels office pushing back on that. This notion that we are all of the sudden going to be seeing a floodgate, i think that, again, the careful investigations in the clinton era didnt result in any charges. The fact that this investigation did doesnt reflect that we are going to see a sea change of vindictive titfortat prosecutions in the future. I think it reflects fundamentally unprecedented nature of the criminal charges here. Cnns evan perez joins us now. Evan, you were inside of that
an autocrat facing dozens of ny charges with an ax to grind against the government he seeks to lead. that s a question that republican candidates are either unable to answer or unwilling to answer at this moment. there s now just one major challenger to ex-president trump after florida governor ron desantis dropped out and endorsed donald trump. it s hard to remember but for a time, ron desantis was seen as the much vaunted trump slayer, the one candidate who could break the hold on trump that he had on the voters in the republican party. appeal to those alienated by trump and ultimately beat joe biden. back in 2022, the new yorker asked, can ron desantis displace donald trump as the combatant in chief? the new york times asked, quote, is ron desantis the future of the republican party? but a las as it turned out, voters didn t want a trump alternative, they wanted trump. that became clear as his legal troubles mounted with every indictment the trump got stronger in the pol
weissmann, professor laurence tribe from harvard law school, glenn kirschner, who so valuable eat was in the room today during this argument, during which, i think even donald trump knows, the whole thing collapsed. the defense that could save him, the immunity defense collapsed before his eyes. when you re arguing about navy seal commandoes being able to assassinate your political rivals, i think you are not winning. i m a lay person, i can t wait to talk some more in your hour, but my layman s opinion is that that s not a winning strategy. you re halfway through law school, based on what you ve just said. i m learning from the best professors there. i will be watching tonight. have a good show. ight have donald trump endured the worst day of his life as a criminal defendant today. was donald trump s first time in a courtroom as a criminal defendants for anything other than his arrangements. donald trump was not allowed to speak, and we can only imagine the intensit
americans who are worried about these issues. it is important read. it s a book that everyone needs to read as we talk about all the others. this is the thing that matters. it s very yellow. josh green, congratulations on publication day, my friend. thank you for the book. that is our show for tonight. now it is time for the last word, with lawrence o donnell. good evening, my friend lawrence. good evening, alex. we have professor andrew weissmann we have professor laurence tribe from , we have glenn kirschner who so valuable was in the room today. during this argument during which i think even donald trump knows the whole thing collapsed. the defense that could save him, the immunity defense, collapsed before his eyes. when you are arguing about navy seal commandoes being able to assassinate your political rivals, i think you are not winning. i am a lame person, i only went to tv law school, i can t wait to be taught somewhere in your hour, but by layman s opinion
white house is expected to brief shortly and will likely face a lot of questions about hunter biden s art dealer who is right now speaking behind closed doors. that is happening with lawmakers today. the deposition before the house oversight committee is part of a larger investigation into the biden family business dealings. john: they came to hear from the soho gallerist, who has featured things from the first son in at least two shows. we will ask what was learned today coming up. this indictment of the administration s attitude toward public disclosure and toward full transparency. there s just a lot we need to know and frankly, there s a lot that our enemies are noticing about our lackadaisical attitude toward the chain of command. i can t find anyone to tell me what was wrong and how ill he was. was he sedated, was he under was he unconscious. sandra: key questions at this hour as just a short time from flou we will now we will hear from pat ryder, the first br